Final Score: Knicks 107, Bucks 101

The Knicks (8-17) defeated the Bucks (5-20) 107-101 in Double OT.

The Least You Should Know

With under 20 seconds to go in OT and the Knicks up by 2, Carmelo Anthony missed an isolation jumper. Tyson Chandler tipped it out to Andrea Bargnani WHO SHOT A THREE POINTER, which signaled this reaction from Clyde:

Carmelo Anthony played a career-high 55 minutes, scored 29 points, had 9 rebounds, and 4 assists. He scored the final 8 points for the Knicks.

After missing 20 games, Tyson Chandler had 9 points, 9 rebounds, and 3 blocks.

Beno Udrih had 21 points and 5 assists in his first start.

JR Smith set a Knicks franchise record by putting up 17 three point attempts. He hit 5 of them and finished with 19 points.

For the Bucks, Brandon Knight scored a career-high 36 points. He also grabbed 9 rebounds, but had 8 turnovers.

Amit Badlani

A win is a win, so I’ll take it. But understandably, I have far more complaints than encouraging words after this.

First off, if this team has playoff aspirations, they shouldn’t be going back-and-forth with the Bucks. Especially a Bucks team without OJ Mayo and Larry Sanders. I’m not saying it should’ve been a blowout, but going to 2OT is ridiculous.

Secondly, WHAT WAS ANDREA BARGNANI THINKING AT THE END OF THAT FIRST OT? The only answer was that he wasn’t thinking. I’m sure you all had crazy reactions. I personally hoped someone on the bench clocked him in the face, but then I calmed down and hoped he would just go back to Italy. It’s the same kind of mental mistake that the team committed on Monday in the loss to the Wizards, and when a team is mired in a slump like the Knicks have been in, it’s reason to be even more focused to get out of it.

Thirdly, it’s another poor performance against a “scoring” point guard. This time against Brandon Knight, who barely qualifies as a “scoring” point guard. Knight has been averaging 12.6 points per game this season, AND THEN HE GOES OFF FOR 36. As Tyson Chandler gets back into rhythm, scoring from opposing point guards should decrease, but Udrih and Murry need to do their job of staying in front of their man.

Lastly, I’m happy JR Smith is back to shooting, but he needs to drive more. 17 3-point attempts is INSANE.

There are a handful of bright spots for the Knicks. Carmelo Anthony scored the last 8 points for the Knicks, showing that he can still be the clutch guy that he hasn’t shown so far this season. Tyson Chandler came back and played 36 minutes. He was cramping near the end, but what a performance to come in and give the Knicks a boost like that. And Beno Udrih managed the game well after having little experience with the starting lineup and even threw in 21 points.

 




135 comments
manchu
manchu

After all the headache of last night Id much rather take a W than a L. Period

barnaby87
barnaby87

Like this if you said "what the ****" and then started hysterical laughing when Bargnani put that shot up.

lindro88
lindro88

A horrible win over a depleted Bucks team , and people are talking about beating the Pacers in the playoffs.  Only on TKB

lindro88
lindro88

First of all Beno Udrih is not capable of staying in front of quick guards.  In fact no one is.  Look around the league.  When Lillard faces Irving, they both go off for 35.  In fact the Sixers,Blazers,Kings,even OKC are all among the worst rated teams defensively against PG's.  The Knicks problem is once the guard gets past his man, no one helps properly and they give up a ton of layups.  Last night Knight did a lot of his scoring on jump shots.  With Chandler back things should get better.  Nothing I can add to what Bargnani did that hasn't already been spoken about.  While it is not technically Woodson's fault, its just another example of how terribly prepared this team is.  I guess Woody saves his job because they ended up winning, but with Melo playing 55 minutes or whatever it was, it won't be long before he's on the sideline.  I know its not as simple as changing coaches, but its the only move they can make right now. I don't think I have ever seen two straight NBA games where a team handled the final half a minute so poorly.  

diggs
diggs

It's really amazing how bad this team plays, even in their wins.  How did they win 54 games last year...were Copeland and Novak really that important to our success?  Or was it the importance of having Camby, Kurt and Sheed sitting injured on our bench?  I can't blieve it has anything to do with Felton's injury becuase I swear he is the worst starting PG in all of the NBA.

Muhammad Gretzky
Muhammad Gretzky

"Udrih and Murry need to do their job of staying in front of their man."

To be honest, Murry's defense was a bit of fresh air.  He knew when to shadow over to help the defender and was smart one-on-one defensively. Though he received three early foul calls, two of those calls could've went the other way. When Murry was on the floor I saw a small spark of good rotation defense. That's just me. As for Udrih, we can harp on his foot speed on defense, but that's the point of team defense. If one acknowledges that their pg may be at an disadvantage against explosive guards, they would put themselves in a proper position between their man and the guy they're help defending's man, especially if you're a 7-foot veteran, defensive player of the year winner.

fasheezee
fasheezee

There is no genuine discipline with Woodson. He doesn't have them tight when they need to be. You can win a couple of games like that but when I see sustained evidence of good coaching eg Pacers, I see how doomed to failure we are with him. This team is essentially on their own.

hosket
hosket

Go back to Italy?  Is that the best you can do?   Other than being a pal of somebody that gave you the opportunity to host a discussion...I would expect more than a sophomoric tag line.   He wasn't thinking...he is a catch and shoot piece of this insane puzzle the Knick braintrust came up with...and he shot.  Stupid...yes but a reaction that we almost always wish he'd do more of....but stupid wasn't thinking....Now what country should you go back to?

ds2488
ds2488

A win is a win...but man was it ugly.


I'm really not a fan of this Woody/JR pairing anymore.  One of them has to go.  Jr taking 17 3 pters is an embarrassment.  This "coach" has no control over JR and he has no control over the team.  It's gotta stop.  


I don't even want to get into the Bargs "incident".  Not only that, but afterwards he airmails a pass 20 feet over his teammates head.  Needless to say, that is on the coach to get him out of the game.  But like usual, Woody plays the cold hand.  



joeknix
joeknix

Positive first:  Welcome back Mr. Chandler!  . . . we got the W

Negative:  The Knicks have the lowest team IQ in all of professional sports . . . ALL PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.  How else can you explain the last two games.  Nobody can blame Woody for Bargs bonehead 3pt shot with 14 seconds left when the Bucks had to foul.  INSANE.  I seriously would have sat him . . . how can anyone be THAT stupid and collect a paycheck as a professional basketball player.

Mr. Chandler played 37 minutes and had to be removed for cramping late in the 2nd OT after missing 20 straight games . . . Melo played 55 minutes . . . no that’s not a misprint 55 minutes!  I honestly think Woody is trying to bury our best players under the hardwood!

How can Woody be allowed to continue to torture his only top 20 NBA player by never taking him out of the game.  It’s insane.  I swear it feels like how Dusty Baker rode Kerry Woods and Mark Prior into the ground.  Seriously bad news.

How can Woody keep Chandler in for over 35 minutes when he hasn’t played for 20 games.  Seriously Woody!

Metta played only 12 minutes and went 3-4 from the field with 3 rebounds and 4 STEALS . . . IN 12 MINUTES and he doesn't get more burn . . . HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!

How can Woody let JR shoot 17 3PT shots!!!!!!!!  I’m so tired of him riding his pet so hard.  Yes, he made some big shots in OT but 19pts on 23 shots is awful.  I am not happy at all with their lack of interior play everything is from the perimeter and NOTHING is happening inside the paint NOTHING not just JR (who has forgotten how to drive) but the entire team.

How can Woody not scream at Melo to stop pressing when he’s obviously having an off night shooting. . . there were 3 straight possessions in OT where he forced the action for no reason and zero results.  PASS THE #$%@##$#$ BALL.  Look, I want him to take the big shots but I want him getting the ball 15 feet within the offensive flow not dribbling it in from half court.  Why is this so hard to understand for the player or the coach!!!!

My disdain for Woodson grows by the day . . . even after a win.

denelor
denelor

Part of the reason Melo's not "clutch" as much this year is because he's playing 207 minutes per f'ing game.  


Woodson is going to ride Melo until his legs fall off. 

bluprint13
bluprint13

Lol Murry did stay in front of him, what game were you watching. He killed Beno and JR all night...

tommy2b
tommy2b

please remember the Bucks are the worst team in the league with the worst home record in the league playing without their 2 best players.  this was almost as pitiful a performance as the boston game.  Only a heroic effort from Chandler saved them from further humiliation.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

hmmm so no Chandler? maybe we would've lost? 

goes to show Chandler is an important part of this team

cause no easy shots in the paint for Milwaukee 

Knight basically killed us on Jumpers. 

Crazy to see why THJR don't get extended minutes where he is a better shooter than Shump and JR

JR took like 23 shots smh 

luckily Bucks suck..or we would've been talking about a Loss and how Woodson should be fired any day now.

skoonix
skoonix

YIKES! If we had lost this game I would have soiled my knickerbockers. Good to see Tyson back but this team gives me the willies!!

Marvel
Marvel

Jr shooting 33%




no punchline...


kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Am I the only person with mixed feelings about this win? A loss might have been Woody's last stand. I NEVER root for the Knicks to lose, but Woody is just not getting it done. Double OT to beat Milwakee?? Come on now! With the consistently stupid mistakes this team makes in huge spots every single game??

He needs to go!!

lindro88
lindro88

@zdiddy4nyk That's really ludicrous.  The Pacers are on an entirely different level than the Knicks even if the Knicks are 100 percent healthy.  Not to mention the difference between Vogel and Woodson is startling.  I'm a Knicks fan for 30 years, and would love for this team to start playing better, but right now they aren't even on the same level as teams like the Wizards, never mind the Pacers.

fasheezee
fasheezee

@zdiddy4nyk That's exactly the point. We NEED a competent coach. Teams eventually takes on the personality of their coach---no wonder Bargs had that lapse in thinking. Woody has lapses constantly.

fasheezee
fasheezee

@zdiddy4nyk We will not win with this coach. He gets out-coached on the regular. That's the reality of the situation. 

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@BiggieSmallsI agree 100%. But I don't think that excuses Woodson's coaching. Aldrich should have been given a few meaningful minutes during that stretch in games where they we getting massacred on the boards or opposing guards were getting into the paint at will.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@joeknix Who else was he gonna play?  I definitely agree with some of your points but we're without Felton, Prigs, Kmart, Amare...that's 4 key rotation guys.  Who's he gonna play if he doesn't play Melo or JR?

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Starts at the top! Woody is a low iq coach! It took his job on the line for him to realize that your supposed to sub offense and defense at the end of close games?

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Lmao! Nobody wants that RIDICULOUS contract!

Marvel
Marvel

@akamarb 

we are at our best when everyone plays at their best....



but Thjr is currently better than jr.


lindro88
lindro88

@jimmybx @lindro88  JimmyBX the expert on everything.  Last year you said that Wallace was fine, and if the playoffs started he could play.  You said so many things that were 100 percent wrong,that it's hard to even take you seriously anymore. BTW what level of basketball did you play? Were you a two sport star, because you say the same thing about baseball.  A true legend in your own mind.  

lindro88
lindro88

@jimmybx @zdiddy4nyk That I'll agree with.  They won't finish with a bottom five record in the NBA, but to put them in the same air as the Pacers is foolish.  I know you Jimmy, a smart Basketball man, knows better than to even consider that.

fasheezee
fasheezee

@Carl D Hill @Kojo Brown Then why even have a coach then? Teams need good coaching in order to do the following:


PLAY TEAM DEFENSIVE

GOOD SPACING

OBSERVE AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS-PLAY CHESS WITH THE OPPOSING COACH

KEEP EGOS AND PERSONALITIES IN CHECK-GET INSIDE THEIR HEADS-MOTIVATE

SET A TONE FOR COHESIVE PLAY


Woodson does NONE of this!



joeknix
joeknix

@Blaze NYK @joeknix Metta should have had more than 12 minutes and Cole could have been used to spell Chandler a bit.  Also, THjr should have gotten some of JR's time.  I am glad to see they finally used Murry . . . I was going to lose my mind if they put in Chris Smith over Murry.  I hope they keep using Murry over this 2 week period.  

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

@Carl D Hill I agree with you 100% until the other night loss ,he sstill has three timeouts and 6 cseconds to score.He said it happen too quick,maybe we need a faster thinker coach,I would not fire him because of that alone but it sure made me think about it .I love Woody but I'm tired of losing and that game hurt because we fought hard to have your coach screwup hurts.But I also think Melo or Beno or one of those 100 assistants should  call it.

dullah
dullah

LMAOOOOOO @ 'played at Rucker...'

-no you didn't...

lindro88
lindro88

@jimmybx @lindro88 @zdiddy4nyk Keep telling yourself that.  If you want to debate weather the Knicks can finish .500 and hopefully win a round in the playoffs, thats fine.  If you are going to compare this mess to the Pacers, no point in that.

fasheezee
fasheezee

@zdiddy4nyk @illmatix BS. Dolan is solely interested in Woody's CAA connection. Herb is a competent temporary replacement and the team respects him. They would get that bye bye Woody bump while they find a permanent replacement.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

@illmatix@NYKnickerBocker

And maybe that's AB just being AB.  He's looked lost plenty of times.  But - I don't think the focus should be on that shot.  You are right, if it would have went in - it would have been "oops" and forgotten.

There were other things to be upset about in this game and I swear I thought that second to last shot in regulation was going in.  But to top that, Bucks get the rebound and have another good look.  


Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

I have no idea! But I did know that Beno guarding Beal 1 on 1 with the game in the line was not a good idea!

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Marvel @akamarb No, he's not better. He's playing better because he's hitting his shots. JR isn't comfortable right now, low on confidence, playing in pain, and being asked to be the 3rd scoring option when he's not ready to do it.

To think they're at the same level is foolish


Marvel
Marvel

@akamarb 

no ...he's better


we all know jr can knock down 3 straight treys once in a blue... But he's more bad than good.


I'll give u this. we do need him to play better if we want to win.(but thats obvious)