Former Knicks coach Larry Brown criticizes team, says Mike Woodson was treated unfairly

Sam Spiegelman

Larry Brown and the New York Knicks didn’t exactly have a clean breakup. Apparently, the longtime NBA coach and current SMU head man isn’t exactly fond of the organization’s treatment of Mike Woodson either.

In an interview with SiriusXM NBA Radio, Brown made a case that new team president Phil Jackson should give Woodson a chance to leave “graciously,” citing Woodson’s efforts to turn around the franchise:

“I’m sick about what’s happening with Michael (Woodson),” Brown said of Woodson. “The whole thing about the Knicks, I want the Knicks to be great, because the NBA needs it badly. They have the best fans.”

“He’s out on the limb and that’s not fair,” Brown added. “For a guy that really turned that franchise around and made people proud of the way they played, I don’t think he’s been treated fairly, and that really bothers me.”

“I think he went [18-6] when he took over that team two years ago. And then last year they won 54 games. I think from 2001 they might’ve won one playoff series. He’s done a remarkable job. 

“They’ve had terrible injuries. They lost a GM (Glen Grunwald) that I thought did a great job. And then they didn’t bring any older guys. When you lose Jason Kidd and Kurt Thomas and Rasheed Wallace, you lost your locker room. He did a lot for that team, and that’s unfortunate — I don’t think you treat people like that. And in the long run there is bad karma when you do that.”

If the Knicks are to make a change at head coach, which is expected to be the case this offseason, Brown nominated Jackson.

Jackson has already stated he has no plans to return to the sidelines. In fact, reports indicate NBA analyst and former Bulls point guard Steve Kerr is the frontrunner at this point. But Brown isn’t convinced Jackson can be an asset to the organization if he’s spending half of his time on the West Coast.

“Let him coach,” Brown said of Jackson. “You’re not going to make the Knicks better by living in L.A. and being there half the time and not talking to your coach. Let him coach. He was the best coach probably ever. Let him coach. If that’s the way they want to do it, let him coach and give Woody a way to leave graciously.”

It seems like Brown is just backing a friend and former colleague in Woodson, but at the same time he’s putting unfair pressure on Jackson.


Your thoughts, Knicks fans?




196 comments
franktkb
franktkb

Coming in to April I was pretty realistic and said that the Knicks could go 3-3 (win all home games) and the Hawks could go 3-5 (win the games they "should win" and lose the games they "should lose"). As of today, the Knicks lost one of their home games and so they really need the next game in Toronto to make up for the home loss to Washington. And as of today, the Hawks are 2-1 over their last three and I had them marked as 1-2 over those three games. So the Knicks really need them to lose to the Celtics tonight which would put them at 2-2 over the last four and set up to do the 3-5 finish we need. 


Hoping for a Celtics win on the road doesn't feel very good but you never know.   

M&M; Consultants
M&M; Consultants

Larry Brown  is bitter and everyone forgets Mills was against trade for Steve Francis and Jalen Rose and he  also help reduce the money we owe Larry Brown when we fired him, Every GM in the league respects Steve Mills. 

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

So Hawks wanna Toy with our Playoff hopes like that? they deserve to lose every game now 

and Kyle Korver deserves to go ice cold from 3 

tw22
tw22

Hey Larry, mind your own fu&%ing business!

ReneNYG1
ReneNYG1

Brown is right they should of treated Woody fairly and fire him a long time ago.

metro555
metro555

how ya like my nets now?

chudogz1
chudogz1

#firebaldy. Brown can re hire him as an assistant..... Or he can be the schools new janitor

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Plumlee's good. I liked him in the summer league. Wish we had him.

newyorker9
newyorker9

LOL Biggie still thinks Knicks got a chance...

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

LMAO! The Nets have swept the Heat all 4 games! Plumee block LBJ shot at the end is priceless and no call for LBJ.

Even with the lost, LBJ made some nice plays in the clutch taking it to the hoop and nice passes but Plumlee made a better one at the end.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@metro555  You've come to the wrong place. They still svck azz! Kidd is a slimebag who tanked on my Knicks. Get to steppin!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@chudogz  lol  You talkin about Woody right? He doesn't seem qualified to do much. I'm firebaldy with a new and improved handle just in case you were wondering or something.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@knickgirl35  I'll take Timmy any day of the week. As a rookie he already proved to be a legit scoring option.

Not too many rookies accomplish this, especially as a 24th pick.


His defense leaves a lot to be desired, but since he wasn't a lottery pick and surpassed all the expectations upon him, I'm pretty sure the Knicks had one of the biggest steals of a pretty weak draft.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY Yep.  A nice rookie with size. KG has taken him under his wings on the Nets. The Nets have a lot of length on that team. Even we they go so-called small, they are are lengthy.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@VerySilentJay @knickgirl35  I agree he was a steal due to his talent and work ethic. And you're right---he has to play more effective D. 

He also has to get in the weight room. He's still young though. He has time.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Biggie @newyorker9  No they don't.

I really appreciate the optimism, but enough is enough.

The season was over long before this "successful" stretch.

Now it's just another classic Knick move to suck people to what has been an atrocious season.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Plumlee is a rookie dude!  Dude has been playing very good. i told you that early in the season when the Nets was losing that Plumee and Livingston are playing well.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@xmenreturn  Of course you do. I'm sure you have more faith on the Nets than the Knicks, just like you think the Jets have a future....

rico
rico

@OLDKNICK @xmenreturn  Hey Kenyon shut it down too as did about 20 guys last year.


Guys get hurt. I think it was John Madden who used to say "never second guess a guy on his pain" because you don't know.  I agree with him there. 


I know many posters here are a huge pain in the …but, but I endure :)

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@OLDKNICK @BiggieOur #2 option shut it down before we got him.  

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@BigChiefTriangle @knickgirl35  Exactly.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@knickgirl35  

Yes, no need to get bulky, but Timmy really has to strengthen his core and base...kid gets completely thrown off balance from the slightest nudge from an offensive player.  So easy for defenders to get separation on him.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@VerySilentJay @BigChiefTriangle  

Respect....you might be the first TKBer to show any semblance of humility.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@BigChiefTriangle  Fair enough. Maybe I'm blowing things out of proportion, but I tell you, some were raving about the amazing pick up that it was.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@VerySilentJay @BigChiefTriangle @Biggie  

I can't be bothered to dig into the archives; I just doubt that anyone characterized the Livingston signing as the "best" off-season signing.  "Best signing" sounds like a misrepresentation of someone's statement that Livingston was a good pickup...but glad you agree on that front, regardless.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@BigChiefTriangle @VerySilentJay @Biggie  Oh, you should take a look back at the beginning of the season. Since none of those were Knick signings, of course they were major revelations.

Imo, Livingston is a solid pick up, yet Knick fans often overrate him because: 

1. He doesn't wear a Knick uniform

2. They compare him to our PG rotations, which is likely the worst in the league.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Sandro Guedes @Biggie  I think it's time you got your stories straight....

You're often comparing the Knicks to other teams, many times the Nuggets (because your boy Masai spent some time there.

First you stated the importance of post season performance (I know you couldn't give 2 sh!ts about what the Knicks did in the regular season....you were barely even here....but as soon as the playoffs woes came along, so did you).

Yet, for the Nuggets, your argument was that they were so successful in the regular season (the whole basis of your pov), yet you forget to mention that they're capped out, haven't done anything more than we have in the playoffs, have no difference makers whatsoever, and they're relying on a core of Gallo, Chandler (who have played just about NOTHING in the past 2 seasons), Shaqtin a fool, and Lawson "to make noise in the West".


So, which is it? What's really your meaning of "making noise"...or does it change to all the teams you campare the Knicks to?

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@VerySilentJay @Biggie  

Who ever called Livingston the "best" FA signing of the season?  Myself and a few others simply noted that he was a good solid pickup for his positional versatility at the vet min.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Biggie  According to the Nets, their plan is "win now", yet, imo, they've got ZERO chances of making the ECF....so that's a pretty big FAIL in my book.... as it should be for Prok and King, who are currently spending a sh!tload of money on a team that, at the most, can compete for one more season.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@xmenreturn @Biggie  X, you know I respect your pov (even though you have more faith in your Jets than the Knicks....WOW), but KG is way done.

Like, WAY done.

Before he got injured he already was on a minute restriction. Even if he starts, his impact is based more upon his presence and experience than what he brings on the floor.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Knicks weren't a tough out last year. We were the #2 seed, we were the favorites. 

The Nets are not favorites against Indy or Miami.  If they lose to anyone else that is a total faliure.

They should give Indy and/or the Heat a tough time if not beat them.

But if they lose badly, I don't care because they aren't my team. I was just calling it like I see it that they were better than our Knicks


xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Dude, I told you that the Nets can go far and if they lose they will be a tough out to the team that comes out of the East. The team that beat the Nets will have a hard time and they should be the team that wins the East if not the Nets themselves.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Yep, he didn't have great stats but he is a beast for the Nets. He usually have a mismatch at PG with his height.  The Nets are winning now and have the best record int he East in the 2nd half.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @Biggie  I have an idea for new Knick uniforms. Black with orange and blue trim. We need to look menacing next season. What do you think?

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie As long as he's ready for the playoffs that's all that matters to Kidd.  It's all about the playoffs man!  No one talks about the reg season once the playoffs starts.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturnOnce again, my comment was about what you had stated to me about those two. Didn't ya see that Sando didn't even mention Livingston but I did?


xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturnLOL  So you forget how you told me that Livingston and Plumee were garbage early this year when I stated those two are playing good ball for the Nets?

Go dream about us having more than 543 wins, being 3rd int he East and AB being our 2nd option,.

Ya think Woody has put the entire Triangle in yet?



xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Ol Helmet one,I was commenting on your comment to Sandro, I was teasing ya about how you stated those 2 weren't good when I pointed them out early this season. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie You were down on Plumlee and Livingston when I pointed them out early this year dude.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter No True. Just because you make a tough shot to win a game does not make u smart.  T-MAC won many reg season games from the perimeter.

Being a smart player usually helps makes you consistent in the clutch. Just think about it.  If I take a high pct shot or can go to the hoop and draw a foul, I don't have to be perfect.  Just make your free throws and maybe even get an AND1.

Ewing had a little of the Melo issue.He would shoot fadeaways and in the clutch against team like the Bulls, he either made it or not.  He rarely got fouled.  So he had very little room for error. 

The MJ, Kobes and etc, knew how to get into the paint and either get an easy shot or get fouled. 

LBJ did just that tonight. He just got caught by Plumlee on the last play.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter Not at the end or in the critical moments.  Those moments where the game can easily change or key moments, Melo has issues.  Just pay attention to this next time.

No player can be consistent shooting from the perimeter especially when that playe ris the star and the defense may double or may it harder for them.

MJ couldn't even do that. He feasted on the foul line and we knicks fans use to get pissed off saying he gets all the calls even in our house. To this day, I still say that because I hate the SOB. He became too smart b-ball wise and he knew when to take it to the paint and draw a foul.


xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter LOL Yep.  But you did see how LBJ went to the hoop and made passes to players cutting to the hoop at the end. When the game was on the line, he didn't take 3s, he took high pct shots. 

That's what Melo needs to be better at.

Yes, LBJ got caught at the end slow dunking but he did get fouled maybe twice but I don't care. I'm glad the Heat lost.

If I didn't hate Indy even more for laying down to ATL, I would want them to beat the Heat.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter Yep. he coasted thinking he would be uncontested. Plumlee came out of nowhere to get that block. Great play by Plumlee. 

LBJ did the right thing and take it to the hoop but he should have thrown it down quickly.  Sometimes ya showboat ya lose.

He didn't need to use hsi body because there was no one there when he went up.  LBJ just got caught slow dunking with style. lol