Heading into this week, Hawks magic number sits at 3

Harris Decker

Iman Shumpert, Anthony TolliverThis is an interesting week for the Knicks and the Hawks. As I wrote about last week, the Knicks have four off days while the Hawks make up the two games that separated the team’s records. What sucks for the Knicks is that their competition this week has even less to play for.

Tonight, the Hawks face the Detroit Pistons, who have won just 28 games, good for eighth worst in the NBA. Tomorrow it gets even worse, as they take on the Boston Celtics who have lost eight in a row and have the fourth worst record in the league. Neither of these teams, the Pistons or the Celtics, should want to win. They are in tank mode and that could spell the end for the 2013-14 Knicks.

The Hawks play has been about as nauseating as the Knicks. The roller coaster season has continued as of late. They blew out the Pacers on Sunday but couldn’t keep it close against the Bulls earlier in the week. The wins are coming at the right time for the Hawks.

Now, theit magic number is down to three.

Any combination of three Hawks wins or Knicks losses and New York will be officially eliminated from the playoffs. As chance would have it, I’m guessing that somehow, someway, the Knicks will be able stay alive into next week. All I ask is that the knockout blow not come at the hands of the Brooklyn Nets, who they face one week from today.




53 comments
Randy Wilson
Randy Wilson

As I said Hawks lost. A loss tomorrow and all of a sudden Friday gets interesting.

Randy Wilson
Randy Wilson

You know we are talking the Hawks here. Not exactly an elite team. They can win and lose against anybody and are really screwing themselves by making the playoffs. Knicks comeback and win Friday and they could be tied with the Hawks just like that. Assuming Hawks lose 3 in a row which is always possible with the Hawks.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Some of you guys need to get a room. Having no game until Friday has not raised the level of discourse here on TKB.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

I'd like to take a poll of knicks fans:


1) Phil in full control no playoffs


2) Dolan in control lose in the 2nd round


You couldn't have had both

lobcity1
lobcity1

But why no one is talking about Stat being healthy all year?

bkinghof
bkinghof

The ironic thing is that if we won 37 games, as ESPN predicted and which we all scoffed at, we'd be in the playoffs...

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Countdown to the worst coach in sports getting the big boot out of NY. Bye Baldilocks!

rico
rico

Gosh it's amazing how we all hold out hope while the Knicks and even Hawks cut hearts out…79 games later what a waste. I feel embarrassed I wasted so much time this year watching sports (Ie The Knix) …ouch. I could have learned a new language in that time or something.


My only hope now is that whomever the Nuggets select with the Knicks pick is a royal bust.



Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Knixtradamus opting in would mean he would play out the last season of his contract.   Opting out would mean he can sign a new contract at your suggested value.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knicks_Fanatic lol  The issue should be MELO from here on out. That's the one huge outstanding issue now. How that plays out this off season will speak volumes about Phil and Melo himself. 

Woody is a goner so no suspense there! 

rico
rico

@Seth Nadler  once upon a time the Knicks hired HOF coach Larry Brown to coach the Knicks back from the abyss to contention.  The town was ecstatic, everyone though the Knicks had brought the heir to Red Holtzman to the sidelines  at MSG.  


Before I attest to seeing god in the knicks FO (Jax) I want to see what he does and how long he lasts.


No matter what he says Dolan is still at the helm 

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Seth Nadler  Option 1, no doubt.

Even though Jax has no experience whatsoever as Pres of bball operations, he brings credibility, leaves Dolan in the sidelines, cut ties with any entity that might have guided Knick transactions in the past, and presents the opportunity to create a new culture in NY through the figure of a basketball legend.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@lobcity  Stat never played D. His first coach in the NBA--No D' Antoni. Enough said.

bkinghof
bkinghof

@FIREBALDY  

Addition by subtraction. The team will improve immediately...


VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@illmatix  Those are the excuses "the coach" used.

Which is one of the many reasons as to why he'll almost certainly get canned.

He's done nothing to earn the 3rd year that's already guaranteed.


VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@rico Bucks, Philly, Orlando, Boston, Utah, LA, Sac, NO, Detroit, Cleveland....They'll be in the front line.

Denver will likely pick 14th-16th both with ours and their pick. (they have the same record we do,except one less in the loss column, I think).

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@rico  I agree with you on the wasted time that's why I starting reading books while watching the games.

zebeto
zebeto

@thatsagoodpoint @Knixtradamus..that Houston trade ...Melo for Parsons, Asik and Lin plus 1st rounder is looking good the more i think about it .........then package Chandler/Felton or JR for Dragic .............and the team would be solid . with 2 really good pieces for the future  Asik , dragic and Parsons.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint Why would Melo sign with us so that we can trade him when he could very well leave on his own and not have us get players or a deal from the team he does to.  I hope he would have learned from the Denver trade. 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Biggie @FIREBALDY  Wanna know a semi secret Biggie? C'mon bite. No trick question.

rico
rico

Wow poetry...kudos.

rico
rico

Honestly i did too. But if i really focused i could have taken a course gotten a masters degree online, but nah, i' ll watch a hirrid team and then go to a blog an bitch about it :)

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@zebeto That team would be a .500 team at best.  Not athletic enough.

zebeto
zebeto

@Knixtradamus ..supposedly hou inniciated convo with the knicks about Melo before the trading deadline , so therefore you never know ...........if HOU for some reason get bumped early from the playoffs , I def think its plausable .....especially with their GM who seems hell bent on making HOU a contender .


....Harden , Melo , howards is def a BIG3 ......and atleast melo would be in the western conference.

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Knixtradamus he admitted that going under the knife was something he was strongly against.  Hence, he let it heal via physical therapy.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY Cool.  6' 1" is a nice height.  I'm 6' 4" now.  I think  I shrunk by an inch so far. 

Yep, here is where I go to let out some frustration about my team as well as have those rare moments where joy can be had.

Then's there's Biggie!  That little lying SOB blasts others here while never admitting his mistakes. 

But it's all fun!  

I bet ya never knew those psychology classes would come in so handy correct?

Yep we are the Bebe's Kids of the blog world.


knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @FIREBALDY  lol You have a way with words. You should write a book of some kind. I'm 6'1 so I had a hard time finding tall guys in my younger years. Wound up marrying a coach who is slightly shorter than me but it doesn't matter. I'm an artist by the way that's why I have so much free time to BS.

I took up psychology in school so I was only half lying the other day about being a psych.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@FIREBALDY lol I've been posting with Biggie (aka Biggiesmalls) for years and that dude never admits he's wrong or have any integrity!  

It's a blog and he still can't admit that he's totally wrong about certain things. Imagine if you had to date that dude?

Oh Lord, the thought of you walking around holding hands with short football player........well he has the head gear no so much the talent! 


VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Biggie @VerySilentJay  Yes he did. But he conveniently forgot to mention that he never worked on it to improve certain aspects that could've helped him, as a player, and by extension, the Knicks.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Knicks_Fanatic @FIREBALDY @lobcity  He never was a good defender.

Poor defensive awareness, absolutely no fundamentals. 

Over the years his athleticism allowed him to become a decent help defender.

In most cases, players learn defensive fundamentals at a young age. Some who don't work on their phyisical attributes (lateral movement, footwork, etc) to make up for the concepts you lack. Others just put in the work to undesrtand that side of the game better.

Amare never put in the work, never received the fundamentals as a youngun, and only worked on his offensive game.

Not a thing will change at this stage in his career.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@FIREBALDY @Knicks_Fanatic@lobcity 

You know, it's not easy to be one of the worst defenders in the NBA. It doesn't take much to simply be below average. But to be totally clueless, that is something. ESPN rated defenders and STAT was 389 out of 435. THJ was 429, even worse. No wonder our second unit was getting killed with those two coming off the bench.