Knicks ranked worst front office in basketball

ESPN Forecast had their panel rank the front office of every NBA team — the owner, “basketball decision maker” and head coach — on a 0-10 scale.

Results: The Knicks came in dead last.

New York averaged a score of 3.21, last place, behind the Milwaukee Bucks by three tenths of a point, who came in at 3.54.

It is unknown whether or not ESPN Forecast’s ranking includes the recent hire of Phil Jackson.

Harris Decker

This is an absurd ranking simply because of a lack of information given in the report. For instance, when was this survey conducted? I’d very much call into question a survey that ranks the Knicks last in the league with Phil Jackson running the show. I’d imagine that his presence alone would add a huge amount of legitimacy in the eyes this mysterious panel.

Another thing missing from the report is a clear indication of who makes up this panel. Included are respected NBA reporters like Ian Begley and Chris Broussard alongside a slew of regional reporters who’s names wouldn’t ring a bell. There are even a handful of people included who may never cover basketball. Does the opinion of someone working on ESPN’s social media team really count in this survey?

It could be bad luck for ESPN that they did their study a few days early but calling the Knicks the worst front office in the NBA is simply wrong, especially because there is no date given. If this study was done over the past seven calendar days then the panel are not in their right minds. If it was done days before Jackson was introduced then that should be shared.

In the end, reports like this just piss people off and make fans beat their chests. I don’t give them much of a look, except when one of my teams ranks dead last. It’s no secret here that this report got me going and it’s in the best interest of New York fans to cast it aside and focus on winning the next seven games.




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lindro88
lindro88

Isn't this the exact same thing people say on here about our FO and HC?

lpeezy31
lpeezy31

STAT bench. Start Ray Mur-ray

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Knicks blow the doors of the Nets tonight...propelling them to a 6-1 record to close the season, and land the 8 seed.  Lets go.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

A little off topic anybody see what Omer osik did last night startin for Howard he had 23 boards I would do anything to get his guy I woulda have shump and chandler for him this year at the deadline

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Ummm TKB, we need a new thread. You guys should get someone to break down match ups, etc. We have 7 games left at the very least...you can do it!

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

The Chicago Bulls do not project to have cap room this summer, unless they amnesty Carlos Boozer (@BBallInsiders )

and even then - they don't have enough to really make a run at Carmelo Anthony without a trade to trim salary. $11.7 mil - roughly - isn't going to get that done. 

If Chicago does amnesty Boozer - a chunk of their cap space may be ear-marked to bring over Nikola Mirotic - who has a decent-sized buy-out if he's going to leave Europe for the NBA. 

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

LIONEL HOLLINS WANTS TO COACH AGAIN...


“Of course,” Hollins says when asked if he’d like to return to the coaching ranks. “I miss coaching. What I miss is the teaching … the development of the team and the players. … the players working together and watching them grasp it mentally, and then have them go out and do it physically.”

lindro88
lindro88

Francessa knows basketball. He doesn't watch every minute of every game, but it's not like hockey. He admits he doesn't know much about hockey.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@OLDKNICK  lol....guy is a trip.....politically incorrect but a trip nonetheless....LOL

tommy2b
tommy2b

6-1??? Why not 7-0? Hater/'not a real fan'/troll/negative nancy/pessimist/loser

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Jerry Gee Yep. We should beat them in in our house especially with them having played last night.  But we know they will show up because of what you stated. 

Knixtradamus
Knixtradamus

@SheSaidSpikeWho


Total delusion.


Jackson is a very successful, proven coach. But if he could perform miracles, he would have never left LA defeated and being swept out of the playoffs - AS A COACH, his specialty. What it means is that Jackson can't have the CURRENT NY Knicks roster playing like San Antonio no matter what he does or knows. He  can't turn a turd into a diamond - let's keep it real.


No to mention that he won't be in a position to make too many meaningful moves this offseason.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

Nah chandler sucks this guys is a beast rebounder and younger and fresher

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@xmenreturn @Jerry Gee  Hey X, I know you don't think Melo is Phil's kind of player. My question is, do you think that Phil could "get through" to Melo and help him get to that level? It seems you'd rather just let Melo go than to see what he could be under Phil. I know he isn't coaching but if Melo stays, I do believe Phil will sort of take him under his wing.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Knixtradamus  Lol I don't think that happens either but John Salley was joking. It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, Phil will do this offseason. Phil brings hope and credibility but I won't pretend that it means he will do an excellent or terrible job. I hope he is great though. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knixtradamus Amen! No way we are even getting to the ECF next year!  We have very little room do do much next year unless Melo leaves......

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@Biggie  @Sandro Guedes I have never called sandy a goat herder!!! Why???? Because he is a sheep herder and I stand by that statement. Sandro knows nothing about goats, but he is indeed a sheep expert.

;)

diggs
diggs

@VerySilentJay @Biggie  Wow!!!  Thank you for saying it.  I've been reading these threads for a while.  This Biggie/Sandro nonsense is getting old.  Even when HaS was hear posting, many didn't agree with him, but there wasn't anywhere close to this amount of bickering.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter You think Phil is going to sign Melo long term deal with a no trade clause.  You're more stupid than Biggie. lol

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter foolish? You've been nut hugging Melo since you come on TKB.  Some of us are Knicks Fans but you're just a Melo Fan!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK Melo is opting out and what have you heaerd or seen that make you think he is not?

What reactions from Phil has made Melo the #1 priority to get settled? 

Why would Melo alloe himself to sign a long term deal here knowing he would have given Phil autonomy to be able to trade him?

Melo has the upper hand now and he will use that upper hand to go where he thinks it's best for him period.  Don't ever underestimate that!  

Melo knows next year is a bust here playing in NY.  It also could expose him not being able to prosper within the triangle like what is expected.  

But we shall see and it should be fun!  I truly do not see Melo taking that risk of staying here for another year knowing we ain't going anywhere giving up his leverage to go someplace that he can contend in next year. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@SheSaidSpikeWho LOL Some talk!  

What one on one? 

Melo left that "Hi Melo"  from Phil and was mad and went out stunk up the place. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter Yep that same Phil who still hasn't called or spoken to Melo!  

No way the FO would lie in public about a player!  SMGDH

You really stop loving so hard little buck!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie While you are at it, write down all your predictions for this year too! 

Now write down how many were correct!

If you can't add it up, I'll help ya

            ZERO

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@firebaldy Melo is not great!  Phil likes smart players that plays both sides of the ball preferably. But they must be smart and make good decisions usually.

 Melo is a scorer period. He gets his pts by shooting lots of shots even if they aren't good shots. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@firebaldy He's not Phil's type of player and Melo will opt out while he has more control of where he would like to play.  He's going to the Bulls imo! 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter Dude he has to!  If I was the GM or President, I would even be talking of STATues!  I would be saying he's such a warrior and they works harder than anyone and surely he's dying to do whatever to get a ring.

You can't talk bad about your players in public!

Phil has been very lukewarm about Melo and that's very telling.

Just watch this offseason because it should be fun man.  

Feel free to destroy me if I'm wrong.  I'm just expressing my opinion. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter LMAO! No GM or FO person has even lied or been evasive about their real plans before!

What do you want Phil to say,  Melo is a dummy but he can sure score some.

Pay attention over the offseason and learn young buck! 

Once day you will go into the corporate world and see that not everyone show their hand or they just lie to your face.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter Yeah Phil is very used to taking a 10 year so-called superstar that hasn't won anything to being the central player on a championship team!  

Phil can't come out and trash his players in public dude!  Phil has been cordial at best when talking about Melo.

Surely Melo has to get to another level.  I bet Phil think that level will not be obtain under his watch! lol

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @Kiyan CarterLOL  Yep we gotta see that triangle tonight!  

I'll shout out to you when I see the triangle in effect ok? LMAO

This team can't even learn where to stand or who the shooters are on the other team and yet they have put in the triangle already! SMGDH

Like Kiyan, you will say anything to keep your lover in a job here!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@SheSaidSpikeWho LOL Biggie is ree-tarded!  He's out now saying we are running the triangle. 

 So now we run the infinite switch on defense and triangle on offense.  Our dumb players will have major migrane surgery this offseason

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Livingston plays very big.  Dude hasd more dunks than any gaurd in the NBA this year.  That coming off major injuries in the past. 

I told you at the start of the year that Livingston is playing well and will give other guards fits.

I know the game a little man!  Unlike you playa! lol

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@SheSaidSpikeWho LOL Excactly. The Nets are huge and that's without KG, Lopez and Ak47. 

 JJ and Livingston at 6'7" have match up advantage in the front court all the time.

The 2 shortest Nets, Guttierz and DWill run the pt when Livingston is not doing it.  

Teagues gets run only in garbage time. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie  Check out the Nets line-up tonight and tell me how small they are.  

Even without AK47, KG and Lopez, they have a very tall team on the court. 

Check it out tonight and then drool to me later.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturnLet's see what Woody does in the the playoffs.  First let's see if he can get us TO the playoffs. LMAO!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturnSmall ball?  

The Nets line-up is bigger than most teams!  Check out the sizes of the line-up.  Their guards are bigger than most teams SFs. 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @firebaldy  They have been running sets of it. They've been doing it a little in their half court set.

Look up the Triangle X then watch closely.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@firebaldy LOL  Biggie is totally ree-tarded!   Now Woody is running a triangle? SMGDH

When the season is over Woody will be running a boat-- just like Freido! 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Right we have been running the triangle already!   SMGDH!

Melo hold the ball forever and that's a triangle?  

Let's see that triangle tonight! 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturn Yep and they started winning in January dummy 

It's early on because he did not wait for the entire season to make a change even though he was a new coach!

If you can't see Kidd is a much better coach that Woody, you are.....well u r already ree-tarded so there u r!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Biggie  They have been running sets of it. I think Phil is creepin into practices on the DL.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturnLOL Dude you are crazy. 

Kidd took charge early on when he fired Frank from the bench.  Kidd has changed the line-up and he is the one that has that team trying to exploit mismatches and making the extra pass.  The players even state that.

Once gain, you always prove u have no clue. 

Newsflash>>  Kidd was coaching us last year not your boy Woody! LOL


xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturn Ok.  From the guy who told us Kidd would be awful coaching his first year! 

Dude, we are not going anywhere next year so Phil could easily bring in a young coach like Kerr and surround him with veteran coaches and see how he handles things next year

Why would Phil bring in someone who does not believe in his triangle or game philosophy?

Phil is not bringing in a retread from the coaching fraternity.  Watch!

Phil is the defacto remote coach himself. Get it? He doesn't want to have to deal with another Larry Brown type.


xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Dude, read my post again! I stated that it would be that or someone who has worked with Phil. 

aka Jim Clemons, Kerr, Ron Harper and etc.  Even if Phil go outside for someone that has not run his offense we will surely have some of these guys on the bench with the new coach.


xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie Once again, you have no clue!  No offense is rocket science but would a player be confident running it with someone who has never don it or had success coaching it?

If anyone can do it and it's no big deal we can just get any coach or even Woody.

We know Phil knows something about it and that is why he will chose a coach most likely that has run the offense or have worked with him in the past. 

Please try to catch up!