Knicks start today two games back after Hawks loss to Trail Blazers

Harris Decker

The Portland Trail Blazers did something they’ve done a whole lot of this year: They beat the Atlanta Hawks, 100-85. With that loss, the Hawks fifth in a row, the Knicks start today 1.5 games back, trailing the Hawks by 2 in the loss column.

NBA: Atlanta Hawks at Portland Trail BlazersWith few teams playing as badly as the Knicks, the Hawks have completely fallen apart. Things don’t get much easier for the Hawks over the next seven days. They face the Wizards, 76ers, Bulls and Cavaliers. After that three game home stand concludes, they go on the road to face the Pacers.

The Knicks schedule isn’t much better. During the final two weeks of the season the Knicks face the Brooklyn Nets twice, the Heat, Bulls and Raptors.

It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Both teams are playing very mediocre basketball, but no other team is realistically within striking distance. The Cavaliers are the next closest team and they are 4 games back in the loss column.

A few days ago on the TKB Podcast we figured out that if the Knicks lost two of their final games and the Hawks lost six of their remaining 13, the Knicks would make the playoffs. While it seems like a long shot, the way the Hawks are playing would it really shock anyone if they gave the 8th seed away to the Knicks?




134 comments
BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

What is the definition of the word "superstar"?  Curious on people's opinions.

lindro88
lindro88

Here is a prediction. Huge night for Gerald Green. 5+ threes, 2 or 3 steals, and at least one Dunk Contest worthy finish.

lindro88
lindro88

Decker already hedging his last post. I'm guessing he wrote the first one while the ambien was wearing off.

buddhabing
buddhabing

Knicks can win against Phoenix and Golden State if they commit to defense. Easier said than done but they have to play desperate. Slow the game down and muddy it up if they have to. Have to fight like they've never fought before. Do they have it in em. Not likely but i can dream can't i?

dagawd
dagawd

Who has a career night against the knicks tonite?

Chris
Chris

Ah the wonders of this blog, we have a top 5 player and a bottom one coach, and the player is the reason for all our problems. Go to school, get a better job, and stop hating

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

With the Hawks falling apart and the East being very weak outside the first 3-4 teams, Can we expect our superstar to lead us to the playoffs?  Isn't that the least we can expect?  I surely don't have lofty expectations to make it past the 1st round.  Just at least lead us to the playoffs Melo!

dagawd
dagawd

Green goes for 60?

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

The game tonight could get very ugly, very fast. PHO likes to push the ball like the Lakers but they just have a much better roster.  We beat them sans Eric Bledsoe last time who has been averaging for the past 4 games: 21.75 ppg // 5.25 apg // 5.5 rpg.

..Oh and the Suns won 7 of their last 8. It would be a good time for the Knicks to show that they have a pulse for the first time in 3 games. 

Special shout to Sandro, you get to watch your 2 favorite teams tonight lol

lindro88
lindro88

You can dream for the first 14 minutes or so. That's about the point I'm guessing PHX goes up by 18.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Jaime You are totally bugging.  Our superstar surely should be expected to lead us to the playoffs in the terrible East at the very least.

I would expect Melo to tell the troop that he expects them to play hard and fight for every position and if he sees anyone not playing hard and etc, he will get in their face.

Melo should be telling the team that they can surely make one of the last 2 spots and get the chance to play to play Indy again or the Heat who they should have faced int he ECF final last year.

If you don't expect Melo do do this then why they heck do we want to rebuild around him to get us to great things when he is not expected to get us to grab the low hanging fruit?



brookdon
brookdon

The focus on Carmelo on this site is hilarious. He and maybe THJ and recently Stat are the only ones doing their jobs this year.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Jaime  That's right. Melo is a winner who has been dragged down by horrible coaching and limited players.

lindro88
lindro88

Gerald Green won't have a career high, the guy has had 40 plus, but I'm expecting at least 6 3's and a couple of monster dunks tonight.

rico
rico

@Chris   "we have a top 5 player and a bottom one coach, and the player is the reason for all our problems. Go to school, get a better job, and stop hating"



sorry chris sounds like you are doing some "hating" right there

dagawd
dagawd

I wonder who's top 5, i guess when the sports guy on t.v says it they're rite, only those that were born with a fully functioning brain knows MelO is a B player with a Very Low I.Q for the game..

dagawd
dagawd

@xmenreturn  MelO will do what he does best and that's get his first and if the team wins it's and A+

lindro88
lindro88

This has 74-51 at the half written all over it.

lindro88
lindro88

Are the Suns playing the Rockets or the Knicks?

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Mel Brown  It really depends.

Imo, first priority is the coach. That's the first thing you figure out.

After that, then you can  begin to put together a team that can fit whatever system will be used (I'm of the thought coaches should adjsut to what they have, but that's not Phil's style).

A big part also goes through the powers of persuasion that Phil can have, or if his status alone attacts certain players.

Let's remember, we'll only have the exceptions to work with, so aside from trades, there's not much to do.


- I don't know how much Pau's stock has dropped, but having a big man like him off the bench at the MLE could be a solid investment.

- Apply the same to Marion, that can defend multiple positions (something desperately needed here). How knows how much he'll command.

- Stuckey is an interesting choice, especially when there's little chance of knowing what he'll command in the open market. He's a nice fit in the triangle.

- Ariza will be free as well, so his D and 3 pt shooting would be much appreciated, and he's already won with Jax before.

- Thabo will be an UFA. Personally, that'd be my choice. Tremendous defender, solid shooter, and can attack quite well.

- Blair will be a UFA, rebounding is an issue, so at the min, who knows.

- Sessions will also be a UFA. PG is probably our weakest link, so you definitely need to take a look at that option.



Those are just some examples. But again, it all starts with whoever comes in to replace the negligent excuse we call coach.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@Mel Brown yup I posted a few weeks ago is there any way we can get him here during the offseason?! lol

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@brookdon You are bugging too! The focus should always be on your superstar when all that is expected is to get us into the playoffs in the bad East. 

Once again some of you luv to look at stats instead of looking at who are our leaders and who can get this team to achieve.

If you make the most money at your job, you are expected to deliver more for the company period.  The mailboy doesn't get called in to answer for the company failings.

Melo and STATues make the most money and should be the leaders on this team. Chandler also.



xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@firebaldy @JaimeLOL  Melo is being dragged down by that big bag of money and heavy excuses.

johneco
johneco

@Biggie Interesting point about the pace.

It's a strange matchup.  I'm scared of their backcourt, but our front line should dominate.  But who will Felton guard?

Chris
Chris

@rico @Chris  Yup you are exactly correct. I hate all these aholes who know shiz about hoops and blow off crap because they are jealous idiots. Straight enough Rico?

Chris
Chris

@dagawd  My degrees are in Math and BioChem, y usted?

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Biggie @xmenreturn i never quit on my team I just don't get delusional like you.   i don't expect us to go anywhere this year but it would be nice for Melo to lead us to the playoff with it within reach and the teams we are competing with sucks

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@thatsagoodpoint @onewhoknix not hating on Sandro. I love watching future stars develop. PHO is must watch nbatv this year.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Ray Jorge @xmenreturn@JaimeIf that's bananas then you should eat up Monkey! lol

I would expect any superstar not just Melo to live by that above. 

How are the Cavs, Hawks and Bobcats better than us?  Which superstar on those teams are better than Melo?

So whats the problem? Melo needs what to have his team be better than these teams?  Please tell us?



Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

MELO does the most for the team! By far! You sound crazy right now X!

brookdon
brookdon

I agree Melo should be examined, but there's not much you can do when your teammates have been as awful as his have been this year. There's only so much one guy can do

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn  He never makes excuses like Leroid----"I need help, I need help, I'm the King gimme help". LMAO

dagawd
dagawd

@Chris @dagawd  Lmao i do that everytime som1 wants to talk about the toilet papers they paid 100's of thousand for...


Either people were born smart or they wasn't school don't improve intelligence and common sense

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Do we really want 5 rockets not named Howard or Harden?

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Mel Brown @VerySilentJay  I'm only thinking about FA. 

As long as there are no indications of what Jax's plans are, it's more realistic to see what will actually be avaialable without giving up anything.

Hosuton is very high on Beverly and a trade to get him would have to include multiple players. We have nothing that interests them aside from Melo (and I'm not willing to part ways with him).

I'd trade Chandler in draft day for a cheap player with tons of potential or look to trade him to a team like Portland or Phoenix, teams in need for a defensive minded C to anchor them (and both have interesting pieces that could help us).


I have a hunch that Amare's contract will be a valuable asset, especially for teams that wanna be big players in 2015. If this is Phil's plan, then expect Amare, AB, and Tyson to stick around.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Mel Brown @VerySilentJay  Marion, at this stage of his career, could be swayed for the vet min. If that's the case, it would be a sound investment considering what he can do in terms of rebounding and defending.

jintsknix
jintsknix

@Mel Brown @thatsagoodpoint  Internet beefs lol

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@Mel Brown @thatsagoodpoint  AND THIS IS WHY WE CAN't HAVE NICE THINGS!


I'm not sure who exactly I would go after, but I would look to move Chandler first.  I think STAT wants to stay here after next year and will resign with us for cheap.  I think Chandler has lost his desire to be here but with only one year left on his contract, I think he could be highly saught after because for all his faults, he's still a good defensive center, can run the pick and roll well, can be a good leader, especially on the defensive end.  I would look to do a trade with OKC because Perkins is garbage and OKC wanted Chandler a few years back.  Depending on how they do in the playoffs, they might want an upgrade at the center position and convincing Chandler to resign with them should be easy since they are always a top team in the West.  They also still have a lot of draft picks and young players.  


Other than that, um how about Bargnani for Pau Gasol.  Gasol has fallen off the last few years and doesn't seem to be a Dantoni guy, while I think Dantoni (if he is still there) could be in favor of a guy like Bargs.  Both have been injury prone the last few years and are disappointments, but when healthy Gasol is a much better player than Bargnani.  Plus he's played for Phil and could be a good guy to have when the team is learning the Triangle.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

Because if you are, and in no particular order:


Griffin, Drummond, Monroe (they exchange roles in Detroit), Davis (imo, a PF ala KG),  Ibaka, Favors, T Harris, Biyombo, Patterson, hell, even Faried can be placed on the list of young-up and coming PF's.

Morris has improved a ton, yes, but still has a long way to go.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Sandro Guedes @thatsagoodpoint @Mel Brown  Is Markieff a top 10 PF? I'm sure you're not referring to him.

lindro88
lindro88

He just got hurt last night.

lindro88
lindro88

Yea but Shump is the guy who Wade losses sleep about. Lol.

lindro88
lindro88

Why would they trade a great defensive PG for Shumpert? They have a pretty good 2 guard on that team. Beverley is a beast of a defender, and is improving offensively. Shump is Shump.