Recapr: Is Mike Woodson about to be fired as Knicks head coach? February 10th, 2014 6:15 pm SNY.tv’s Recapr takes a look at the Knicks’ struggles and looks at if Mike Woodson’s job is in jeopardy. Like this:Like Loading... 227 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest sankofa 5pts If Hardaway Jr has to be included in any trade. I don't think we should do it. Especially if it doesn't make us title contenders. bockers 5pts 3 team trade that helps each team OKC,DET and Knicks1)Detroit sends G. Monroe($5mm) and Stucky ($8mm expiring) to NY. OKC sends Reggie Jackson to NY($2mm).2)OKC sends Perkins ($9mm)and Collison($2mm) and future #1 to Detroit3)NY sends Chandler($14mm) to OKC.OKC gets Chandler to play center with Durant,Westbrook and Ibaka.Knicks get Monroe as an inexpensive center and R.Jacksonas our point guard and Stucky expires at the end of the year.Detroit gets Perkins ,Collison and future #1. OLDKNICK 5pts SERIOUS QUESTIONWHO STILL THINKS CARMELO ANTHONY WILL BE TRADED FROM THE KNICKS ????"The Knicks, sources say, have zero intention of trading Anthony no matter what he says about next summer. Not only did owner Jim Dolan personally seal the deal to bring Anthony to New York, but the front office realizes it has one of the most talented players in the league and won't be able to get fair value in return." KnickelusKnickleby 5pts This may be our last week with the current bunchAfter All-Star Break everything can change.either we re-build around Melo or we blow up the Team. Steve Mills GM Seat should be pretty warmed up by now Biggie 5pts this is the most likely Rondo deal http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lj5hlk5 Boston Gets: Okafor , Bargnani, Hardaway, 2014 first from PHX, 2018 from knicksKnicks get Rondo, Wallace, Jeff GreenPHX gets Chandler, Shumpertnot sure i do it unless Rondo is 100% healthy.. Knicks Roll withPG Rondo/Prigs/BenoSG Felton/JR/ToureSF Green/WallacePF Melo/Kmart/MWPC Tyler/Stat/Aldrick saintknick 5pts Other rumor is Washington is desperately seeking a backup veteran PG - on link to stuff on it: http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2014/02/carmelo-bobcats-wizards.html IF this is true, Knicks should make them part of any deal to get a PG - they have quality assets on the bench and young guys galore, and would take Felton's $5 mil off the books instead of it eating cap (pun intended) in the 2015 FA term.This is all IF the knicks are trying to get a PG. They can swap assets from Washington. orlando_knickfan 5pts I totally believe CAA is trying to move Melo to the Bulls. They are an agency in the business of making money and Melo in CHI w/ Rose will make them money. It also pairs one of the biggest Air Jordan partners w/ a huge Addidas sponsor. thatsagoodpoint 5pts 3 team trade:Knicks get: Rondo, Jeff Green, Emeka Okafor, Ish Smith.Celtics get: Amar'e Stoudemire, Ray Felton, Iman Shumpert, Washington 2014 1st round pick, New York's 2018 1st round pick. Suns get: Tyson Chandler, Avery Bradley. MeloStat301 5pts OT:Question...the PG experiment didn't work well with Toney Douglas or Iman Shumpert..but should Knicks see what they have in THJR as a PG?? Obviously, he needs to polish his handle...BUT..he is 6'6 clear advantage over many PG 's in the league...he also is very fast and athletic, mike breen was heard saying he doesn't know who gets down the court in less strides than THJR. He can shoot the ball, especially coming off pin downs which is great to have as a PG, but we haven't seen much playmaking in his hands. I believe its due to the fact he's a rookie, the ball isn't really much in his hands...he is athletic enough to play D and keep up with fast PG's and is a hard worker...his defense has improved in this half season alone...just a thought. I know everybody wants to trade for so and so PG, but do you think we can have a PG in THJR?? I'm not so sure either way...just putting it out there...what do ya think?? Jesse Brand 5pts Hahahaha thatsagoodpoint 5pts @OLDKNICK Agreed. As I've said below, any report coming from CAA that CAA is pursuing a trade for one of their clients to pair with another CAA client amounts to CAA putting pressure on the Knicks to satisfy the demands of it's client already on the Knicks. MeloStat301 5pts @OLDKNICK Top 4 player in the NBA....have to be a little nuts to trade him.http://www.cbssports.com/nba/playerrankings Sandro 5pts @KnickelusKnickleby LOL relax.Most likely, we will trade Artest for a 2nd rounder, à la Ronnie Brewer and that's it. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Biggie I don't think that's likely at all. Not if they're getting 2 picks and cap relief. Sandro 5pts @Biggie Remove Hardaway and throw in JR or Felton and I'm all in. Jesse Brand 5pts Leaves us no 2 kneggyknik 5pts @Biggie I like it...but I don't like getting rid of thjr. Sandro 5pts @saintknick What do you think Washington would give us for Felton? Sandro 5pts @orlando_knickfan If Dolan wasn't man enough to do what's necessary, good thing the CAA is saving him from his own decisions.Melo leaving us in free agency would be devastating. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @orlando_knickfan CAA already has an alliance with the Knicks. The Knicks will not do CAA any favors in terms of making that deal. The Knicks will be prepared to offer Melo/CAA a full blown max deal. Any reports of CAA wanting Melo in Chicago is their way of putting pressure on the Knicks to trade for Rondo. Biggie 5pts @thatsagoodpoint i doubt the C's move Bradley.. and they'd want to include Wallace in any deal with Green. likely want Hardaway too Sandro 5pts @thatsagoodpoint I don't believe Boston would give away Green, Rondo and Bradley on the same package.Any Rondo deal will involve Gerald Wallace.But I like the idea of stealing a 1st rounder from the Suns for Chandler, in order to chase Rondo with it. OLDKNICK 5pts @MeloStat301 I think the reason we havent seen it is he never played the position... Not in high school, he was the wing scorer and most times shooting guard. Same exact thing in college. Not saying it cant be tried just answering the reason why we havent seen it... Sandro 5pts @MeloStat301 Hardaway is a spot up, athletic shooter. He is a poor man Ray Allen, and that's something really good to be. I don't see a PG in him. He lacks the handles and court vision to do so, pretty much like Shumpert. His defense isn't good, so he wouldn't take advantage of his size.The only good thing he has to be a PG is his shooting. And if you're nothing more than a good shooter in a guard body...you're a shotting guard. Biggie 5pts @thatsagoodpoint that's what they'll want.. and a player like Hardaway.. Biggie 5pts @Sandro no deal says Ainge. you know that. Biggie 5pts @Jesse Brand JR and Felton and Murry would suffice I think. Good JR that is. MeloStat301 5pts @kneggyknik @Biggie Unfortunately...gotta give to receive... Biggie 5pts @Sandro Chris Singleton LOL MeloStat301 5pts @Sandro @saintknick Trick Question Sandro? lol. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Biggie @thatsagoodpoint Possibly. If it's Wallace in the deal then they don't need to move Bradley who would be needed to absorb the 2 million dollar difference. saintknick 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint All true, except I think if they trade Rondo, they'll move Green too. He's not an elite player and makes solid $$, and moving rondo means you're giving up for the next 500 days, with eyes on building a monster in 2015. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint Well money is pretty equal on Green and Wallace and I've seen reports that they're not happy with Green. With the haul Ainge would be getting in terms of future picks and 2015 cap space I think he would consider it. Who knows though. OLDKNICK 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint I actually like this trade but I must admit that I agree with sandy, I just cant see celtics doing that trade without wallace involved. MeloStat301 5pts @OLDKNICK @MeloStat301 True...its something I think they should at least explore..maybe give him some reps in SL..kid works hard and seems to have a good bball IQ for a rook...wouldn't hurt to see what ya got there. MeloStat301 5pts @Sandro @MeloStat301 I see that in him as well...but I said that to say this...the Indiana pacers were looking to draft THJR AS A BACK UP POINT GUARD. Did they see something in him that we don't?? check it out:The Pacers have the 23rd pick in the 2013 NBA Draft, and former Michigan guard Tim Hardaway Jr. is one player that figures to be taken in that range. There’s no doubt, the Pacers are in need of a backup point guard and a scorer. … If the Pacers take him at 23, he’s certain that he can help in both areas.http://fansided.com/2013/06/16/nba-draft-2013-indiana-pacers-may-be-targeting-tim-hardaway-jr/#!vexZTI think he can develop his handle, he does have court vision though..hes made a couple amazing passes here and there, but like I said him being a rookie,. it limits what he can do with the ball. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @MeloStat301 Agreed. THjr is the SG of the future for the Knicks. If we're going to experiment with anyone on the roster at the PG it would have to be JR. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Biggie @thatsagoodpoint That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Biggie 5pts @thatsagoodpoint it's not a good trade if it doesnt hurt. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Biggie @thatsagoodpoint If they're giving up Rondo Wallace AND Green sure. But we won't include THjr so we'll have to go with Wallace. And they'd rather have Amar'e than Bargs. Sandro 5pts @Biggie @SandroYeah, I know. Just wishful thinking.Anyway, I'd pull the trigger even as you put it.Rondo and Green are no joke, close to Melo. Sandro 5pts @Biggie @Jesse BrandRondo and Melo would bring up Good JR more often than not. MeloStat301 5pts @Biggie @Sandro Lol Sandro 5pts @Biggie @SandroTommy Dee would love it. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint@MeloStat301@saintknick Maybe free concessions for a week then. Sandro 5pts @thatsagoodpoint @Sandro@MeloStat301@saintknickEven that is overpaying for Felton... you think they'd bite? thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @MeloStat301@saintknick Floor seats at the Verizon Center. Sandro 5pts @MeloStat301 @Sandro@saintknickLOL I just looked at Washington's roster and I really don't know what they'd be willing to give us. Sandro 5pts @saintknick @Sandro@thatsagoodpointYeah, I agree with you there. saintknick 5pts @Sandro @saintknick @thatsagoodpoint absolutely - I'm just saying if need be they would move him - but moving wallace is an absolute must. They would probably move green in a different deal is all I'm saying. Sandro 5pts @saintknick @Sandro@thatsagoodpoint Green is a good NBA player. Wallace is not. OLDKNICK 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint Oh stop you are giving me goose bumps already!!!!!!! Sandro 5pts @thatsagoodpoint @SandroTotally agree. Rondo and Melo would turn me into a positive paula LOL thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint Fair enough. Either way the deal works. If it means us adding Rondo you have to do it. Sandro 5pts @thatsagoodpoint @SandroWallace makes more money than Green, and isn't even half as productive as him. I'm not saying that the Celtics want to keep Green. I'm just saying that they can move Green on a separate deal, as there will be takers.Wallace, no one wants. So, they have to take advantage of Rondo's value to get rid of him.Pretty much like us with Melo and JR. OLDKNICK 5pts @MeloStat301 @OLDKNICK He would be the tallest point we have had since maybe Michael Ray Richardson!!! MeloStat301 5pts @saintknick @Sandro@MeloStat301 My point exactly. Sandro 5pts @MeloStat301 @SandroWell... we can't predict the future. But for me, if he's excelling at the 2 spot, there's no need to try and change things. He could go Penny on us, or he could go Toney Douglas, if you know what I mean.It's not like we have Jordan and Kobe to play the 2, so I don't see why we should use him as a PG when we need him as a SG just as bad. saintknick 5pts @Sandro @MeloStat301 Hey, if it is "lets spend time developing him as a pg" I am with you. But if the season is over, why not play him with Pablo at the 1-2 and let him run point a bit. Who cares if it doesn't work - you'll get to see how he thinks and how he runs an offense. J Kidd wasn't a great PG because he was athletic or amazing at getting to the rim or hitting 3s. HE was great because he had A+ court vision, A- passing precision, and A+ game recognition. ThJR exhibits those traits, but he also can shoot lights out. He's not a PG - but he could be a SG who, on a Melo team, gets 6 assists a game one day. Lets see if he mans up to that style of play - just for a few sets each game. MeloStat301 5pts @Sandro @MeloStat301 There are many molds to PG now-a-days...he wont be a rondo...They said the same thing about Penny hardaway....Penny learned the PG position essentially in the NBA. Sandro 5pts @MeloStat301 @SandroHe'll never be a floor general. If you turn him into a PG, you'd get a Jordan Crawford type of player.He can be a Top 10 SG in the league someday.He can never be a Top 10 PG in the league.So for me, the choice is clear... OLDKNICK 5pts @thatsagoodpoint @Sandro @MeloStat301 Dolan says..."IT'S GOOD TO BE THE KING!!!" Sandro 5pts @saintknick @Sandro@thatsagoodpoint@MeloStat301 http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231853/Curry-Bogut-Only-Untouchable-Pieces-For-WarriorsThey just said that they want to keep Bogut lol.I think that they'd trade David Lee and Barnes\Thompson for the right deal. Maybe a mix of Knicks, Chicago players is enough? OLDKNICK 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint @MeloStat301 Carmelo is the godfather of one of JR's children so why not? thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint@MeloStat301 I would too but most of the filler pieces to make that trade work are locked with untradeable restrictions. We need to pursue a Rondo deal before considering this. saintknick 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint @MeloStat301 Problem is they have garbage picks and their best asset they would trade is untradeable until after the season (expiring Ogre Bogut) Sandro 5pts @thatsagoodpoint @Sandro@MeloStat301I want Golden State somehow involved. Harrison Barnes and\or Klay Thompson would be awesome as Knicks. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint@MeloStat301 What team could CAA get involved to be the 3rd team though? No way Chicago would have anywhere close to what we'd want in return. A 3rd team would have to be involved and I don't see CAA with that kind of pull. They do however have the pull to get Dolan to act on a deal to get Rondo to NY. Sandro 5pts @thatsagoodpoint @Sandro@MeloStat301Well, if Melo is really being discussed, JR must be involved in that package. We need to get rid of him. thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Sandro @thatsagoodpoint@MeloStat301 I'll save you the time.. no takers. Sandro 5pts @thatsagoodpoint @Sandro@MeloStat301We have to experiment JR in the trading block, nothing else.