Should J.R. Smith play tonight against the 76ers?

Harris Decker

mike-woodson-j-r-smithPolarizing is not the word. Polarizing implies that some fans like him and some fans hate him. J.R. Smith is not liked in New York and it doesn’t look like he has any interest in repairing that relationship with the fans.

On Thursday night, Mike Woodson made a statement by benching him and Knicks nation celebrated a win over the Heat. Now the question becomes, do you continue to let him ride the pine until he straightens up? The answer is no. You have to play him. The Knicks are not going to shoot the way they did against the Heat every night and although Smith might be on his way out of town, he is still a guy that makes the defense adjust.

One thing that must happen is a rearranging of the depth chart. Smith now has to be the 3rd shooting guard, behind Iman Shumpert and Tim Hardaway Jr., both of whom played great on Thursday.

Smith needs to play but his minutes should be cut. His isolation style of play has no place on this Knicks team and we can only hope that Woodson has finally realized this.




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Serg DP
Serg DP

Trade him for air!!!

airfeet
airfeet

If he played the way he did last season the Knicks would be looking like a legitimate player in the east right now

beatseven
beatseven

Unfortunately he'll learn and begin to grow up right about the time his contract is due to expire...Dolan, who has proven his inabality to learn from recent history will order him re-signed to another multi year contract...and the insanity circle will continue to go 'round and 'round...all while Melo and CP3 will be working on a 3-peat in LA.

Errol J Roberts
Errol J Roberts

he doesn't deserve be in nba because he doesent care about his opportunitys that is given to him !!!!

wingo43
wingo43

No!   He should get at least the same treatment that D'Antoni gave Nate.  14 games on the bench.  

James Crockett
James Crockett

Now a picture of him leaked out yesterday of him pretending to untie somebody's shoe at a club. Guy is never going to learn. Let him keep sulking on the end of the bench. Brb while I go burn his jersey

rico
rico

Jr has to learn (if that is possible at this point) that if he's not killing opponents with allstar caliber play then everything else he does is a MAJOR distraction to the Knicks being a professional basketball team.


Looks like rolling the dice on him for one year paid off but once he got paid and comfortable he's as one poster said.."3 fries short of a happy meal.



Dame
Dame

You don't play JR unless you absolutely have to.

Dame
Dame

Woody should go in with the same mindset he had going into the Heat game.

foley
foley

I hope he wins the 13th player of the year award.

Marc Devolition
Marc Devolition

should he ever play again for orange and blue?! he's not worth it!!

Kal Ripken
Kal Ripken

I like the idea of making him the third guard behind Hardaway and Shump. He does have to change his playing style and something like that, if not the Miami game should make him realize it.

Let's be clear New Yorkers like winning and that's why he isn't liked right now.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

You absolutely DO NOT play him against the Sixers tonight. They just beat the Heat without him even sniffing the court and they have won 4 or 5 without with him barely contributing him at all. The team has finally found some life and you just can't jeopardize that. Play guys who are proud to be on the team and give you effort on the floor.  JR has not learned his lesson and chances are he probably never will. Not only that, the dude just isn't that good and has hurt them more than helped them this year. When he does finally play, ease him into the lineup with a few spot minutes. That's all he gets if were the coach. I'm also tired of that stoner drawl he gives you after the games. He sounds clueless, lost and high as a kite. Go do another bong hit JR, pretty soon you'll be irrelevant anyway. Go Knicks! 


CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

Play him!


Good JR - 30+ minutes

Bad JR - under 10 minutes


We have THJR and Shump, he is expendable if he is a liability!

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Don't know if it has been discussed, but according to JR, he said he had no knowledge that he wouldn't play. You would have thought that after Woody said he was going to speak to JR, that would have been a topic of conversation. So, that leaves two choices; Woody didn't want to bring it up for some reason or JR isn't telling the truth. 

I'd assume that if it came from Dolan, Woody can't say the man upstairs benched you. If that got out via the mouth of JR, it would be a PR disaster. So maybe he decided to say nothing and let JR find out the hard way.

bb_dot
bb_dot

The time to trade JR was in the off-season or at the beginning of the season. Guy is a headcase and we all knew it. Last season he somehow managed to focus on the game but there is no way he will ever be a consistent contributor on any team. Too bad for the wasted talent and we are either stuck with him or we'll give him away for nothing or he'll be a throw in guy in a bigger deal.

brookdon
brookdon

Sit him again tonight, let him know that we are willing to go on without him and that he has to regain trust. Then bring him in for 15 or so against the Suns and keep his minutes there unless he proves he deserves more (or less) minutes.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

JR pissed off Dolan. Not a smart move. 

The real question is will Dolan allow JR to play tonight?

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

Sit him again since he found it necessary to make a mockery of the incident AND get it put on DeadSpin. 

IAMINETROBE
IAMINETROBE

Me i would defend jr but sometimes you just go to far the media in newyork will crucify gems

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

I really want JR to sit, but at the same time I want to build his trade value.


JR is a supreme knucklehead and maybe last season was an aberration, but we all know he isn't as bad as the numbers he has put up this season. The dude has talent, give him a chance to get back on track, if only to give the Knicks a chance to dump him on someone else. But his minutes need to be cut unless he gets hot and on the first sign of trouble he needs to get the ax

foley
foley

Weird article.  You bring up every reason not to play him - all of which make complete sense to me, and I agree with.  But then you say he has to play.  How many minutes should the 3rd shooting guard get?  None.  Move on.

bb_dot
bb_dot

@OLD_KNICK there you go: "I've been misunderstood my whole life". Typical answer from a guy who blames everything and everybody but himself. 

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@bb_dot I am now conviced that JR played his @ss off last season for the paycheck and paycheck alone. It's clear that he didn't appreciate the time invested on him by the coach, or how the FO spoiled him non stop and out up with his crap time and time again.

JR's about JR. Not the team.

I'm fine with him on the bench.

bb_dot
bb_dot

@brookdon that sounds reasonable. But JR is like that kid who always thinks everybody is against him rather than looking inward and asking what the heck he is doing wrong. With your plan he will just get further alienated. But then again, that's his problem.

1harris1
1harris1

@OLD_KNICK But he's always been a kook, and he played very well last season.  I wouldn't give up on him yet.  It's not like they have a choice unless they're willing to cut him.  Nobody is trading for him now.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@OLD_KNICK Yup. Dude's unfixable. I'd say to move on without him but not too much can be done.

JR might just be the Knicks' 2nd albatross next to Amare.

He is textbook untradeable. No smart ball club would take hm.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@CL4nyk At this point, I can't fathom JR having consecute awesome performances to gain back all the credibility and value he's lost.

TheKnicksBlog.com
TheKnicksBlog.com

@foley That's not true on this team though. In Woodson rotations, the guards always get larger looks. Woodson likes to play 3 guards so even as the 3rd SG on the depth chart, he'd get minutes. Just not 25+ minutes.

1harris1
1harris1

@VerySilentJay Unless Camelo intervenes and makes a big fuss about it. 



bb_dot
bb_dot

@VerySilentJay @bb_dot yeah. I was super against signing him and then had to eat my words somewhat when he played so well last season. But at the end there is only one first impression as they say... guy is a complete egomaniac.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@OLD_KNICK Damn.... JR's really got no shame. He can't, with a straight face, be mad that his talent-less brother was released for the team's sake, while getting paid.

You ask me, little Smith pulled it off big time: didn't play over 3 minutes. All he had to do is be a practice dummy for a few months to earn over half mil.

Not too shabby.

To get upset at this is flat out ridiculous.

bb_dot
bb_dot

@OLD_KNICK @bb_dot @brookdon agreed. The only problem is that we don't yet have the consistent No2 scoring option. JR was to be that guy. Shump is super-inconsistent, Junior too inexperienced on D, Amar'e broken and Bargs.. well I still think he is probably our best second scoring option out there.

1harris1
1harris1

@Knicks_Fanatic@OLD_KNICK@VerySilentJay The Spurs did run with Stephen Jackson for awhile, so they're clearly not averse to taking a shot on a head case  with talent.  They obviously have enough veterans to keep JR in line over there.  Who knows?

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Knicks_Fanatic @OLD_KNICK @VerySilentJay Ginobili doesn't have 3 years of solid ball left in him. JR, under Pop, just might. 

Green is a great shooter, but can't create his own shot. Belinelli is another shooter with soft D. I'll take any of those 2 over JR.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@OLD_KNICK @VerySilentJay I was in agreement with the Wojo article.

I tihnk he's right, behind the tattoos, drugs and all the stupidity, he's just a spoiled little brat who never grew up and was always given everything he wanted.