Smith to start, Amar’e and Udrih to play

J.R. Smith will start in place of Iman Shumpert on Friday night, Mike Woodson said.

Woodson also noted that Amar’e Stoudemire and Beno Udrih will be part of the rotation against the Magic.

Harris Decker

I’ll ask this question again and again. Why is Beno Udrih getting the minutes instead of Toure Murry? Murry is 2 inches taller than Udrih and seems more likely to crossover and fill in at the 1 or the 2 in Shumperts absence. I’d really like to see more Murry and less Beno but I guess we can let Udrih play himself out of the lineup soon enough.



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Marko polo
Marko polo

What exactly is it ya'll see with murry...... Don't get me wrong he's a good defender but HE CAN'T RUN AN OFFENSE! !! against pressure he turns it over n has trouble with his handle I wouldn't start him over beno who has been a decent player in his career he's actually better @ attacking then Pablo who just dribbles east n west murry ain't ready to just be thrown into the fire..... reminds me of the people who were ready to call toney Douglas the next Gary Payton b start look how that turned out, n he even had more talent than toure I do understand playing tyler more he has more talent n upside than murry

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

honestly all year i felt beno was our best pg, he isn't much defensively but neither is felton.  But from an offensive stand point beno is our best option.  

Raymond Frey
Raymond Frey

Excellent point Harris...let's give Murry the opportunity over the rest of this lost season and see if Murry/Tyler are assets for the future!

Yes...you got it right...rcoolc66...thanx!

therealprof
therealprof

It's Orlando, it shouldn't matter who plays, this should be a win. But Knicks.

knicksbro
knicksbro

Im starting to think HARRIS DECKER is an IDIOT! Our best run was in Texas and Udrih was starting! all im sayin! 

knickstape
knickstape

I Fvncking hate Udrih give those minutes however limited they are to Murray and let Udrih keep demanding trades from the bench


Hes a worse defender than Felton and thinks he's Steve Nash in his prime

newyorker9
newyorker9

mike woodson you a dumb mutherfu3cker. please leave new york

bklyndude
bklyndude

If Woody wants to let Carmelo and JR shoot whenever they want and not run set plays as much as other coaches, that's Coach Woodson's decision. 

But I've wondered if Coach Popovich were in charge. what changes regarding playing time and style would he make given the makeup of this roster.

rkj473
rkj473

Any decent coach would have changed up his rotations by now, but no,  we can't because we don't have a decent coach.

knicksbro
knicksbro

why do I have a feeling a trade didnt go through because of Woody! He doesnt trust anyone besides felton, Melo and his son JR. Shumps hurt so now he wants to play Udrih and Metta?  When they could of just traded them and have the new guys play tonight! But NOOO! Not Woody he rather have his Doghouse play because hes used to them, then give some new guys a chance! All because Woody cant just trust new guys until he tortures them with his mind games and BS. Here we go another rotation!

Serg DP
Serg DP

Beno should start... Tim should start... Metta should start... PG Beno SG Hardaway SF World Peace PF Melo C Chandler i can figure it out... Woodson can't

1harris1
1harris1

Murry though got decent minutes in all of those games as well .

javy180
javy180

@Pevi Levi  at least Murray plays defense and keeps guards in front of him.

rico
rico

@Pevi Levi  not a good argument, see Jon Starks.


I am not saying Murry should get minutes over Beno, Beno knows what do to out there Murry seems a little overwhelmed at this point. That said Murry is a perfect shump replacement. He's a very good defender, fast on his feet, only he can drive the ball….at this point he may be better than Shump.



knicksbro
knicksbro

@knickstape  wooo!! How does he think hes steve nash? sounds like you have a personal issue with udrih! sorry to break it to you. They are right Udrih has played better then Felton and Murry. take your personal issues to your therapist.  WOW

Marko polo
Marko polo

Is he really that overweight? Don't get me wrong he's been TRASH this season but it ain't cuz he's fat... remember mark jackson? When was that dude ever in shape? Especially in his second run with the knicks lol even though I would take a fat action jackson right now.... I'm tired of these wack point guards the knicks have had over history other than Clyde jackson n even steph throughout history our point guards have been not even second but third teir charlie ward was WACK what defense was he breaking down? What's his highest app in a season? Probably below 7 smh Frank williams Jameson brewer Howard eisley we let Strickland walk.... just once! Can we get someone who can come close to averaging close to 10 app n be able to break down a defense

knicksbro
knicksbro

@bklyndude  Woodson and Pop shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. Woodsons that bad! If Pop would be coach half the starters would be glued to the bench! Thats a huge first start. Its a sad time to be a knicks fan

rico
rico

@rkj473  every coach that changes rotations gets criticized for it, every coach that doesn't gets criticized for it. They wanted to run JVGundy out of town for not playing Lavar Postell. Fans are fickle, EVEN when their team wins.  


Nothing easier than criticizing EVERYTHING!

knicksbro
knicksbro

@rkj473  the best run we had this year was on the texas trip! why we went away from that rotation and continue to stink blows my mind. 

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Kiyan Carter  Duncan operates out of the low post,  I don't think he could use Carmelo the same way.  I do agree there would be more motion but he would figure out a way to get to the free throw line more.  And I'm sure he would have Chandler and company taking hard fouls against penetrating PG's.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@knicksbro   What if that sentence is: "Pop is a million times better coach than Woody."?

Come to think of it didn't you just mention Pop and Woody in the same sentence too? Haha

rkj473
rkj473

@knicksbro @rkj473  I think every Knick fan is wondering the same thing. Woodson hasn't even considered going back to those lineups at any point.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@OLDKNICK @knicksbro

The one good thing about dolan is he is loyal.

If you agree with Dolan, maybe.  I wish he had been more loyal and patient with Donnie Walsh.

knicksbro
knicksbro

@carl hill @knicksbro  He doesnt! could of fooled me! The knicks are 11 games below .500 and He is still the head coach? Could of fooled the hell out of me! 

knicksbro
knicksbro

@rkj473 @knicksbro  you took the words right out of my mouth! Its such a damn shame bc we are suffering becuase of it

rkj473
rkj473

@knicksbro @rkj473  I've been saying this exact thing. He anointed Felton the starting point guard first day of training camp and have refuse to sit him on the bench even though he has continued to play abysmal.

knicksbro
knicksbro

@rkj473 @knicksbro  maybe because Woodson Favorites werent apart of that lineup! But who Fing cares your job is to coach and win basketball games! Not to feed and comfort egos.

rico
rico

@knicksbro @carl hill  so who do you suggest replace Woody at this point in the season? The good coaches will not.  You can get an interim guy to baby-sit but that's not going to do anything except show you through in the towel.  They will stick it out with Woody as long as they can this year. He will be dismissed during the off-season…unless something really gets wacky

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@lindro88 Not me. I'd rather Den win the lottery with our pick. It's already terrible they have the Knicks pick this year so why not make it as worse as possible and forever memorable. Plus most importantly Den is in the West so I'd much prefer as many top players as possible going out there then ending up on a team in the East.

lindro88
lindro88

Rather get raped by the Heat or Pacers, than watch Denver draft in the top 10

knicksbro
knicksbro

@carl hill  I half way agree! however we easily could of won 6 more games with another coach. We have lost so many close games. Due to the fact that Woodson is stubourn and doesnt know when to sub, and plays favoritism. Our best run was the Texas trip and we have yet to see that line up again. Why? only Woodson can answer that! We have had so many close games and I really believe that with another coach we could of won those games. and would be in a much better place then we are now.

knicksbro
knicksbro

@carl hill @knicksbro  Ok, So how much extra rope does Woodson get? Please explain to me why having Woodson as the head coach is still beneficial at this point? When is enough enough? We are clearly tanking this season! Who cares about making the playoffs for the 8th spot just to get raped by the heat in the first round.

knicksbro
knicksbro

@carl hill @knicksbro  yea your right about Pringles! But you gotta admit, Woodson still coaching is quite strange! Considering we are supposed to be winning with ease and already comfortably in the playoff run.  The crap show continues with absolutely no improvement and we are now in late February.