The Good, The Bad and The Walt Clyde: All Player Edition

Ben Kopelman

Every Knicks fan struggles with the optimistic angel on one shoulder (we got Eddy Curry!) and the ever-depressing devil on the other (we still have Eddy Curry??!!). After each week this season, we will offer up the positives and negatives of the last seven days in Knicks-land to help sort it all out and put your mind at ease. 

Record during the week: 2-2
Game results: Loss @ Cleveland (109-94); Win vs. Chicago (83-78); Loss @ Boston (90-86); Win vs. Atlanta (111-106).
Overall record / Games Behind: 7-16, 3 GB

THE GOOD

Melo: Continuing to do him. A monster line on Saturday night of 35/6/4 on 59% from the field. Could spend 1,000 posts applauding Melo’s effort and production this season.

Tim Hardaway Jr.: TH Jr. is by far the Knicks’ best player with the name “JR” right now. TH Jr. is playing with the confidence the team expects from its veteran players, not necessarily its rookies, and his minutes should continue to grow. Mental lapses will happen, that is part of the package, but his energy is a huge asset, even when it crosses the line into overexcited and turnover-happy. His numbers do not jump off the page — highlighted by 4/7 for 9 points in Cle, 5/10 for 13 against the Hawks — but anybody who watches the games can tell there is a bounce in his step from the second he enters the game. Hopefully it proves infectious.

Amar’e: No Knick has done a bigger 180 over the first months of the season than Amar’e. There was talk of this guy never seeing the floor again — this season or otherwise — as recently as a few weeks ago. But over the last two weeks, Amar’e has been given more minutes and has in turn produced at a much higher clip. He is abusing backup bigs, and continues to play meaningful minutes down the stretch in Woodson’s ever changing end-of-game rotation. Amidst an underwhelming and downright disappointing season thus far, Amar’e resurgence has been the lone bright spot.

THE BAD

J.R. Smith: Remember when this guy was good? Even better, remember when Mike Woodson had gotten through to him? Distant memories. J.R. continues to look disinterested and ineffective out there. Throw in the report that your 6th Man of the Year showed up his coach and his team by refusing to shoot in a game the night after being called out for taking such bad shots and you have 2013 J.R. in a nutshell. It is hard to believe this is the first time J.R. has been hit with that lecture considering, well, his career has been based off bad shot selection. I have little patience for this guy at this point. He proved to be an invaluable scorer when he put his head down and drove to the hoop and yet he continues to refuse to do as much and instead settle for dribble-dribble-huck jumpers that never look good, even when they go down. Get on board, J.R., or get out already. The drama really is not that interesting.

Raymond Felton: Not to kick a guy when he is down, but sometimes a player’s conditioning (see: being fat) make his injuries harder to empathize. Felton has been playing through a nagging hamstring injury for the better part of the season, but part of me wonders if he simply has had bad luck thus far or whether his lack of, how do you say, being in shape, makes him a prime injury candidate. Throw in the fact that Prig’s play has the team moving the ball better than anytime Felton has been running the team, and this was a bad week for everything Ray-related.

THE WALT CLYDE

Star to the Children:  During Wednesday’s broadcast, Walt began reminiscing about his days as a young buck celebrity in New York City, when children used to run up to him in the streets and clamor to carry his bags.  Imagine if instead of getting a flashbulb forced into your face, Celebrity Row Knicks’ fans were instead approached by people begging to help them with their groceries?  Thanks for reminding us of simpler times, Walt.


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20 comments
zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

3 way trade...who says no???


Lakers get Felton, Shump and Beno Udriuh


Toronto gets Steve Blake, Aldrich, Chris Smith and Knicks 2018 first round pick


Knicks get Lowry, Jordan Hill and Wesley Johnson




Now is this a trade for the Knicks worth giving up Shump and a first round pick??? Wesley Johnson has 3 years and Hill has 4 years experience in the NBA. Lowry is 27, while Felton is 29....we would be younger after the trade.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

Here is a trade to consider with the Lakers...who says no???


Lakers get Shump, KMart and Cole Aldrich


Knicks get Jordan Hill and Wesley Johnson.


Then with the extra roster spot, we can bring up Jeremy Tyler.  I would hate to loose KMart, but Jordan Hill (good defender) and Tyler are both very young with upside.  Wesley Johnson is a good wing defender.


After trade line up when healthy...


Chandler

Bargs

Melo

Wesley Johnson

Felton


2nd unit..

Jordan Hill

Amare

JR

THjr

Prig


3rd unit..

Tyler

another player not name Chris Smith

MWP

Murry

Beno

fasheezee
fasheezee

Some words for Woodson: Go coach AAU or something and let young buck Shaka Smart represent this team with some creativity and fresh eyes. 


I saw an article that suggested Smart would be a great replacement.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that we shouldn't trade anyone or blow up the team.  This team has potential.  We're starting to play better.  Chandler will come back soon.  Woodson has now (sort of) seen the light and will hopefully curtail JR minutes until he plays better.  Felton can finally rest the hamstring. 


The East is weak this year.  Getting the #3 seed and winning the division are very possible.  I don't think we're going to The Finals, but get me to the second round against Miami or The Pacers with this team healthy and playing well and call me crazy, but I like our odds.  Amare, Chandler, Bargnani...all of them will only increase in trade value as their contracts come closer to the end.  If there is a way to ship out Felton (and possibly JR) and upgrade at the PG spot you do it and if something great comes along near the trade deadline, then sure, you pull the trigger.  But moving Shump or a draft pick or Hardaway or Chandler now is a win now/panic move and we shouldn't do that.  If the team continues to play better the value of each player will go up.  Melo will most likely resign and the time to make moves will be this off season or next year.  I know everyone is disappointed with the way this season has played out so far, but its still a long season to go and I think the worst is behind us.  We gotta stop making panic quick trigger trades and develop players and the team.  Let Felton heal.  Give Murray some burn.  Get Chandler and Kmart back.  Adversity early on can make a team stronger.  Remember 1999!  All that being said, I'd rather we get a new coach (if a good one becomes available) than trade a bunch of players.  I guess I would do Felton, MWP and a first rounder for Lowry but even then...not quite ready to give up on MWP and definitely don't like giving up another pick.   

buddhabing
buddhabing

Felton doesn't look any different than he's ever looked. The guy is a fire plug; short and stocky. Why is it that the media waits for him to be playing bad to say he's fat and out of shape? If you went by the eye test he's been fat and out of shape his whole career.....lol

chuco
chuco

We should keep the same five from last game priggie,th.j,shump,Melo, and a.b with stat the 6th man off the bench 

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

- AB's offensive inconsistency and Beno's awful play should be mentioned here, as well. If we're talking about players that are injured, we might as well talk about those who are playing.

- A healthy Felton, even overweight (because if he's overweight now, last season he was enjoying qtr pounders on an hourly basis), playing average B- type ball, is a huge difference for this team. People should pray he can get back to that level after recovering.

- The fact that Murry isn't playing over Beno still is a mystery to me.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Felton injured + trade talks + holiday season = 300lbs.

ds2488
ds2488

You should maybe change the first sentence Ben...

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@Carl D Hill I agree!   I think the worst is behind us!  STAT And Bargs are playing well and so is Melo.  Hardaway has been a real positive.  Let JR and Felton heal and get their heads straight. Chandler is coming back soon.  We have a good team.  WE just got screwed with Chandler hurting himself so early when the team was still trying to find its identity.  If we stop the trade talks maybe Shump will start to play better.  I think we can be a beast by the playoffs.  Give me a team that plays hard and is a tough out and I'm happy. 

buddhabing
buddhabing

@VerySilentJay Murry is not a pg. Beno was signed late and is learning a new system and teammates. He has something to offer that the others don't; a consistent outside shot and mid range game. Just have to be patient with him. If he plays up to the numbers in the back of his basketball card the guy can really help this team.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

Oh, and Shump has been exceptionally bad as well.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@VerySilentJay@zdiddy4nyk We can replace Aldrich and Smith with MWP to Toronto.  Then send Aldrich and Smith to Lakers instead with Shump and Felton.  Then bring up Tyler from the D-League.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@VerySilentJay@zdiddy4nyk Toronto is complaining about taking on Felton longer term deal.  So, I gave them Blake to back up Vasquez.  Toronto really want the pick for Lowry.  Aldrich and Smith will be cut...they are salary fillers.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@buddhabing @VerySilentJay 

I don't care too much for his decision making, especially that ridiculous pull up leaner (whatever it is). Regardless of when he was signed, you're a professional athlete, 10 years into the league, you show up in shape and ready to do your job. He's been around for over 3+ months with the team, the only issues I think he has is that he's not being able to find his spot and the overall lack of chemsitry is hurting him as well.

He's a beyond awful defender, turnover prone, and I don't see where you see his consistency from mid range and beyond the arc.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@zdiddy4nyk Blake is injured, out for 2+ months, which is why.

If Toronto really wanted to let Lowry, they would've cut a deal already.

We've given enough picks away to not get the proper talent.

Lowry's a good PG, but I'm not giving up more picks for a guy with an uncertain future.