Tim Hardaway Jr. posts career night as the Knicks blowout the Cavs

Harris Decker

Inside Madison Square Garden on Thursday night, a guard was in the starting lineup that many fans in attendance were eager to see. He has become one of the best young guards in the league and seems to be putting up big numbers night after night. Kyrie Irving is the guy a lot of fans came to see, but Tim Hardaway Jr. is the guy they will remember.

Tim Hardaway Jr.The Knicks were hot from the get go last night. Once again, Carmelo Anthony set the tone, hitting 5 of 10 in the first quarter, while racking up 18 points. Feeding off of Anthony as he often does, J.R. Smith got off to a fast start as well, scoring 11 first quarter points and adding a pair of threes. The Knicks were up by 17 after the first quarter. Despite the hot starts for Anthony and Smith, it would be Hardaway Jr. who would electrify the crowd as the game progressed.

After playing just three minutes in the first, hitting a single 3-pointer, Hardaway Jr. saw his minutes spike in this game with Iman Shumpert on the shelf. He took full advantage of Shumperts absence and the blowout nature of the game, feeding off the Cavs anemic defense.

In the first three quarters, Hardaway Jr. scored 11 points on 4 for 7 from the field. In the fourth quarter, with the game well in hand, he exploded for 18 points on 7 for 10, including 4 for 7 from behind the three-point arc. With six threes, he tied the Knicks rookie record and continued the Knicks streak of playing loose, fun basketball.

Hardaway Jr. ended the night shooting 65% from the field and 50% from three-point land. His downfall of course is his defense where he was beat a few times by the likes of Irving, CJ Miles and Jarrett Jack. Still, you can live with average defense when you have a guy like Tyson Chandler roaming the paint. He cleans up a lot of mistakes by the young guard, blocking 3 shots last night and making his presence felt on both sides of the court.

There is a long career ahead for Tim Hardaway Jr. He has shown flashes all season and that culminated last night in a career night. He won’t soon forgot a night like that and while Irving and the Cavs were left holding their heads, Hardaway Jr. led the Knicks to their fourth straight victory.




70 comments
youngog
youngog

Great game by the kid...he needs work gets beat on defense a lot and settles for way to many jumpers...great on the fast break though which is a plus...hopefully he develops into a great player

knickfan2
knickfan2

Does anyone here remember Hubert Davis?

At best, THjr becomes a much better version of Allan Houston.

Or

At worst, THjr becomes the 2nd coming of Hubert Davis...a player with a sweet jumpshot, but one who never developed a handle and could never be relied on to play in the 4th qtr because of timid and lackluster defense.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

IanBegley Ian Begley
Carmelo Anthony on the #Knicks' small lineup: "I really like (it).... It seems to be working right now."

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

OT:


If the New York Giants were hoping to sign free-agent defensive end Justin Tuck to a team-friendly deal before the market opens in March, it does not sound as if they will get their wish.

"I will see what the market is for me," Tuck told the New York Post on Thursday. "I've never been in this situation before, and it's a great opportunity for myself. I would be doing myself a disservice if I didn't see what the market is, and I will."


LOL...Sound the alarm that Tuck is "Leaving"...see how stupid this sounds?

1strdpicks
1strdpicks

Fields and Shump were first team all rookie first team Considering how weak this draft class is we gotta steal in the mid 20's in THJR and may make a push for that first team.

rkj473
rkj473

Interesting that the Knicks players experience a 5% shot increase with Pablo on the floor, that's staggering.

rkj473
rkj473

Anyone seen the exchange of tweets that Hahn and Herring was having last night about Shump? Very interesting stuff.


@HerringWSJFollow

@alanhahn Wrote other day that Iman really doesnt play well off Ray/Ray doesn't ever really set up Iman. One assist to him for every 70 mins.


@HerringWSJFollow

@alanhahn Iman spots up on right side, which is same side Ray runs P&R to. (Iman shoots best from right)


@HerringWSJFollow

@alanhahn And Iman's explosion in Texas came w Beno, who runs offense from the left, running the offense. Same was true of Baron in 11-12


@HerringWSJFollow

@alanhahn Davis ran the offense from the left after Lin went down, and Iman had consecutive 25-pt games w him running the offense

brookdon
brookdon

lol Tristan Thompson actually had to get X-rays on his ankle after what JR did last night.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLDKNICK  

The Bayhawks are playing in Springfield, MA tonight. They probably just want to get him some burn at the point.He can fly to Miami Saturday.

Harris Decker
Harris Decker

@Elvis Maduro  He'll obviously improve on defense as he plays more but you can deal with him the way he is if he's going to be the scoring threat that he's becoming.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Elvis Maduro He's not that bad defensively....hes ok..he has actually gotten better on D...I think he is still trying to get the schemes down pat, he will be fine.

brookdon
brookdon

Also from Tommy Dee

@_TommyDee_: Here are some player averages in "passes per game"

Lebron 49.8

Paul George 46.6

Melo 42.9

Harden 42.6

Durant 37.4"

brookdon
brookdon

Was gonna post the same thing. Wait until Knicks fans turn on him Shump had these articles written about him back in the day as well.

knick4life
knick4life

@rkj473 Iman would do well with Dragic. Shump for Markieff Morris? 

brookdon
brookdon

lol Biggies been on this site for years, pre Melo, pre Amare, pre talent. That's ridiculous.

knickfan2
knickfan2

I agree in terms of THjr's greater skill set. I was asking more in regard to "ceiling" potential.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@kneggyknik @MeloStat301 Well my Knega..I'm a Cowboy fan too..at least we can agree on that, lol.  I posted it to prove a point..all theses athletes love the idea of free agency..especially if they have never been one before...doesn't mean they are going to leave.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@brookdon  

All passes aren't created equal. You can pass out to repost or you can make a beautiful dish that leads to a great shot for a teammate. There is a quality aspect to passing that raw numbers don't capture. All those guys have the ball in their hands as the main man, except for Durant as he has Westbrook. That's more a 1A 1B situation.  

1strdpicks
1strdpicks

IMO there's no bigger ball hog than Harden. Melo always gets criticized for holding the ball, but Harden routinely dribbles the ball for 15 secs a clip.

knick4life
knick4life

@brookdon Yeah that was an interesting observation considering I've been posting regularly with Biggie from the KnicksFix.  The team was dreadful back then and he was always on there.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Elvis Maduro @MeloStat301@OLDKNICK@kneggyknik Lol..sound like my Giants buddies saying the same thing...funny thing is...Romo hasn't had an offensive line his whole time with the team, and never put up a season like Eli.  I'm done with the football talk lol :o)

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Elvis Maduro @OLDKNICK@kneggyknik Lol...that's fair...explain to me how one can go from 2 time champion quarterback...to the worse in the league..lol.  He had the perfect storm of great players around him (o-line,defense) and a helmet catch and wes welker drop...I do give the giants FO credit, they know how to find players..

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@brookdon  

In all fairness, sometimes Melo is a willing passer and other times he isn't. We seen games where he has the court vision of a point guard and other games where he is content to go 2 on 1 or 3 on 1. That's why we debate the topic.

When Melo decides he is going to do some passing, he is actually a great passer. Sometimes he's just not looking for his teammates.

brookdon
brookdon

Agreed. It's more about the idea that Carmelo doesn't pass that Tommy is trying to kill. If the media were to say that Carmelo doesn't assist than that's fair. But the perception is that he is a no conconscience chucker that doesn't look at his teammates which isn't true.

brookdon
brookdon

These aren't the leaders in passer per game BTW. Just superstars Tommy chose to prove a point.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLDKNICK @Knicks_Fanatic@Sandro Guedes@brookdon  

Yeah, he just had another surgery last week.

TORONTO — Toronto Raptors forward Landry Fields will be sidelined for several weeks after having surgery on his right wrist.

The Raptors said it was a “minor surgical procedure” to address the ulnar nerve release in his hand.

Fields underwent ulnar nerve transposition surgery in November of 2012 to alleviate nerve compression in his right elbow.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLDKNICK @Sandro Guedes@brookdon  

I had high hope for Landry Fields. I've kept tabs on him and rather than any type of Melo mojo issue, his game was really affected by ulnar nerve problems in his elbow. After he signed with Toronto they found damage to his ulnar nerve in the elbow. That reeking havoc with his shot. He had surgery and now is out again with a second surgery.


"Landry described his symptoms and condition on Thursday, where he revealed that he noticed his hand was clenching into a claw, specifically his pinkie and ring fingers, as he approached the release point of his shot. To fix this, doctors transported Fields’ ulnar nerve over a bone in his elbow that the nerve used to rub against during his shooting motion"

brookdon
brookdon

True. At one point Melo completely stopped passing the ball to him lol. No trust in him whatsoever.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Sandro Guedes @brookdon He hasn't played with Melo in 2 seasons...and still hasn't recovered.  Has very little to do w/Melo and all to do with him being a system player, that isn't very good at all.

brookdon
brookdon

Or Gallo as Dirk lol.

To be honest however I don't think I've ever seen a player fall off a cliff as badly as Fields. After the ASB it's almost as if he forgot how to shoot. It's a shame we couldn't convince Denver to take him instead.

rkj473
rkj473

@Sandro Guedes @rkj473 @knick4life  Lol... but Baron Davis is a righty pg and he ran the P&R from the other side. 


It's interesting how Shump favors shooting from one side compared to the other.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Sandro Guedes @brookdon Wrong..you never watched Melo in the Denver days huh?  Check their pace and how fast they played under Karl...did u just start watching b-ball in 2010??

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@brookdon  

We still haven't been able to figure out how to use Chandler and Amar'e together. Dolan should have fired D'Antoni once he got Melo. Going into the 2011-12 season with no training camp and no point guard was going to be a disaster. Chandler and Amar'e are both pick and roll players. You only need one. 

Then starting Toney Douglas and Mike Bibby at the point was not complimenting any pick and bigs. Bibby was reduced to a three point shooter and Toney Douglas dribbled around in circles for the most part.

brookdon
brookdon

MD's problem was his ridiculous infatuation with the high PNR to the point where Amare, as big and strong as he was, was relegated to a three point shooter. Woodson's o and MD's O are absolutely nothing alike outside of three shooting.

brookdon
brookdon

Not really.

I never understood the connection between MD and Woodson offensively. They are way different. Our pace is WAAAAYY slower. MD liked to spread the floor and run the high PNR to death to the point where he told Amare to work on his perimeter game to complement the Melo-Chandler PNR (ugh). Woodson told Amare to work in the post. We nev ran Melo on the post as a set until Melo sad eff it after realizing that without Nash the offense was stupid.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Jimmy @brookdon 

Miami seems to do OK without a decent center. OKC doesn't have one either and they got to finals. Spurs have Splitter, not exactly a decent big man. Centers are a dying breed. 

brookdon
brookdon

I think I read on here once someone saying Woodson is worse than MD. Talk about short memories.

MD was a joke.

brookdon
brookdon

In all honesty I used to be one of those hawk guys who crushed MD at any time possible but after blog highlights became a regular thing and I noticed that EVERY blog wanted their coach fired for some ridiculous reason. Sorry to go on a tangent but over my years here with highlights and such for example, I've seen Nets fans call for Lawrence Frank, Avery Johnson, PJ Carlesimo, and Jason Kidd to be fired with no shame.

brookdon
brookdon

Lol I didn't even read your post when I put up mine. Good ol days of TKB with HaS, Mucha, Yo Son, Big, SilentJay, X, Fields Fanatic (formerly Jeff7somethin), you etc.

brookdon
brookdon

Biggie was considered negative back then. When I first started writing on here (09) almost every post was anti-D'antoni. He and an old-time poster named HaS (who was banished by Tommy Dee) were always quick to call out MD (similar to Woodson now). He always was willing to enjoy the successes though.

knick4life
knick4life

@Sandro Guedes @brookdon Biggie would have to answer that himself but from my memory him and HaS hated D'Antoni (X-Man too but he hates every coach).  Lot of spirited discussions about whether Mike D was a fraud and whether he would ever care about defense.