Win over Warriors puts Knicks on the door step of No. 8 seed

Harris Decker

Just when you thought the Knicks couldn’t get out of their own way, Sunday night happened. It even happened in surprising fashion. After all, the Knicks trailed big in this game early after the Warriors jumped out to a 10 point lead after the first quarter. Luckily for the Knicks, it was the second quarter the told the real story about this game.

J.R. SmithIn the second, the Knicks outscored the Warriors 34 to 12. That’s right. This Knicks team held Stephen Curry and company to just 12 points in the second quarter, while Tim Hardaway Jr. and J.R. Smith put on a show. In the quarter, the Knicks shot 14 for 22 and Smith led the way. He only missed one of his 7 shot attempts, piling up 14 in the period. You could hear the swagger dripping from Walt Clyde Frazier’s voice. This was a phenomenal quarter the Knicks, possibly the best of the season. The cherry on top was that it was a against an excellent team.

The second quarter put the Knicks up by 12 at the half, a 22 point swing.

It’s hard to track the Knicks momentum this year. Does a win over the Warriors erase the horrible losses on this road trip to the Lakers and Suns? Of course not. But a win is a win and when your goal is reaching the playoffs, as I believe it still is, hard fought games like this matter. With a matchup with the Utah Jazz coming up tonight, the Knicks need that momentum on their side. After today, they head back to New York to face a string of games that includes the Nets, Wizards, Heat and Raptors. No easy task.

Still, with the win and the off day for the Atlanta Hawks, the Knicks now sit just a single game out of the 8th and final playoff seed. It’s worth pointing out that even if the Knicks take care of business against the Jazz, the Hawks face the 76ers this evening. It’s in New York’s best interest to hope that the 76ers can come up with a two game winning streak after losing 26 in a row.




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rico
rico

funny how the same people come here and argue the same stuff over and over and over..as if it was going to become truth or some new epiphany.



brookdon
brookdon

Don't know if this has been posted yet but...

""Some selfish dudes in here," Hibbert said. "Some selfish dudes. I'm tired of talking about it. We've been talking about it for a month."

"We play hard, but we've got to move the ball," Hibbert added. "Is it obvious, or what? I don't know whatever our assist ratio, or whatever it is, is in the league, but it probably isn't up there. I'm really trying hard not to spaz out right now, but I don't know. We've been talking about it for a month. I'm not handling the rock. I don't know. I've made suggestions before and we do it for, like, one game, and then we revert back to what we are. I don't know. I'm not the one to answer that question. It directly affects me and the bigs. We're just out there and it makes us look bad."

Paul George? No way!

Things are getting bad in Indy

dagawd
dagawd

Very good chance Knicks-Heat first rnd...


Indy got spurs tonite, heat got toronto

meloin5
meloin5

For all the posters who are hating on Melo for not being a leader, you all are just blowing  bubbles in the wind.  A leader gets people to voluntarily follow them without verbally or physically being in their grill.  Melo exhibits these qualities while with the Knicks, the problem was the front office and Coach was inept and could not be counted on to provide Melo full support for holding players accountable for their performance.  Hopefully Phil will do the Right Thing.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Jerry Gee  

If you want to go the free agency route, you want to try to sign a Robin Lopez BEFORE he puts together a really good season.  Get a player at a rate that will be a bargain one year later (easier said than done, of course).  

Overpaying individual players for past performance can really limit options for filling out the rest of the team.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ Jerry Gee. star or stars?

buddhabing
buddhabing

@Jerry Gee  Not according to winning percentage. He was 2nd to Riley all time before season started. I don't really like the job he's done this year but to say he's worst in team history is a little harsh.

brookdon
brookdon

Melo isn't as great as Ewing, but he's maybe a tier below and there are the same contingent of Knicks fans trying to run him out of town for not being as good as his rivals (MJ/The Dream to LBJ/KB/KD)

Mets0987
Mets0987

So u guys haven't started a season in what like 3 years not sure.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Mets0987 Hang it there man! There are many good games to go!  Ignore than 90 or so bad games!

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

@brookdon  Paul George was feeling himself like he's the man, and Lance Stephenson is a Goon so between those 2 they're caught up in the hype 

therefore it's all about them and no one else. 

Pacers dont wanna see Knicks in 1st round that would be dangerous 

hell not even Miami wanna see Knicks in 1st round 



kofi
kofi

He's basically saying the same thing Amare has been saying for two years. Amare has just handles it a little more "professional"

buddhabing
buddhabing

@brookdon  Hibbert should worry about rebounding the ball; only 6.9 per game. Talk about swelled heads, most overrated center in league.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@brookdon That's great that the players are addressing that now!  George's head has gotten big and he has not won anything.

If they are to get past the Heat they better address this no doubt.

I'm sure Bird doesn't like what George is doing

The coach and the leaders have to step out or step out!

Not our problem though so I don't care if they solve it or not. 

Boy George better make that change!

dagawd
dagawd

@akamarb  LoL, mets should move to L.I

Josh Gabriel
Josh Gabriel

@akamarb With Phil running the team, he sees through the occasional wins. As soon as he has the chance, Woody, JR and Felton are gone. He knows what he wants to do with the team and he's gonna do it whether they make the playoffs or not.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@meloin5 Hey Rip go back to sleep man!  You had decades of sleep and you've miss all the games!

brookdon
brookdon

This x 100 (in response to Illmatix)

brookdon
brookdon

When's the last time you guys started a season lol?

Mets0987
Mets0987

What are u talking about?

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@dagawd Stop it man!  We just don't want to get out to fast and raise expectations!  This will be a methodical 160+ games march........to the death!

dagawd
dagawd

Every team wants indy 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb WOW!  Even you have seen the light and it doesn't have Bud in front of it!  I'm totally impressed!  

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Sandro Guedes @BigChiefTriangle  

"A Robin Lopez signing would be killed around here, because he was just a scrub in NO."


It's true.  For example, Kosta Koufos is one such player who may have the ability to play Robin Lopez type role.  Tony Wroten might be a young slasher with room to develop.  These are the kinds of free agents you MIGHT be able to get at a decent rate.

You don't want to get into a bidding war over players like Robin Lopez/Anderson Varejao/Kyle Lowry (whose game I love).  It won't end well.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ Jerry Gee. I only consider Melo a star. OJ Mayo made great money last year, as does Rudy Gay and Montae Ellis. They are B level compared to the big boys! I understand what u mean, but in actuality, we only have one.... We all know the story with Stat :)

chudogz1
chudogz1

@illmatix @ OLDKNICK. IM WITH U BOTH

buddhabing
buddhabing

@OLDKNICK @buddhabing @illmatix  I'm all for players getting all they can but they have to realise it comes with a price. If you're getting max money fans are gonna want max performance regardless of how unrealistic or unfair it may seem. Melo doesn't have Lebron talent but if you make Lebron money fans are gonna want Lebron results. Just comes with the territory.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@OLDKNICK @illmatix  I agree with your points about Melo but the problem is he wants to get paid like the Lebrons' of the world. You ask for that type money the expectations are gonna be commensurate to the salary; no getting around it.

Mets0987
Mets0987

The past couple years we have been successful on opening day. Opening day stings a little more for some reason.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Mets0987 Let's look at the bright side, it was only just 1 game and it only counts as 1 lose. 

johneco
johneco

@VerySilentJay @buddhabing@brookdon He had the same regular season last year.  Then he kicked butt in the playoffs.  What he brings (top notch interior D) becomes much more valuable in the postseason. 

brookdon
brookdon

I think it's at George as well. George kind of went at him when he said that Gortat should be DPOY after he shut Hibbert down a few days ago.

kofi
kofi

"Boy George" lol!! That's a good one!

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Kiyan Carter  More than that, I think he's struggling to be the #1 choice every night. He had such a great scoring 1st half of the season that now he's expected to carry the team every night. I think he should do it, but he's gotta put in more work on his offensive game, because if not he'll start hearing "chucker" sooner rather than later.

Teams are adjusting their D to what George is doing, so he's struggling with that right now.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Kiyan Carter That I agree. He did well last year against LBJ for a few games and now he think's he's on that level.  

It's great to be confident and not scared of anyone but you still have to produce and know what got you there.

Boy George has not won anything and he first has to get past the Heat and they know how to win in the playoffs.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@dagawd @xmenreturnLOL  I'm just hoping Fred Coupon sells the team.

I guess first I should hope that someone wants to buy them huh?  

Working on it now! 

dagawd
dagawd

@xmenreturn Last time i supported the mets was 2000 ever since i was like why don't they move out the City

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb @xmenreturnFor 12 M or less he can stay here and be a piece for Phil.  Otherwise he should go to the Bulls and let us be. 

We need to start building our dynasty and I don't mean Duck!


Ray Jorge
Ray Jorge

@Sandro Guedes @akamarb@meloin5 After Trading Melo.... for those parts We will have a starting five of who??? & How will we compete for a championship against Houston Heat Spurs OKC & Clips??? Oh I know we'll be hoping a "STAR" is willing to be with our "STARLESS TEAM"!!!

dagawd
dagawd

@thatsagoodpoint Your point is nothing i talk about, my point is Ewing was a much better leader and player than MelO, i don't judge players by Rings i judge them on how they played on the court I.Q

dagawd
dagawd

Your point is Criticism my point is Ewing had more success than MelO

dagawd
dagawd

My replied was a reply to Sandro

dagawd
dagawd

EWING way better played in a harder era and got out the first rnd almost every year

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint No Way, With Eqing it was about getting past the Bulls!  We were so close and that Charles Smith thing really pissed us off.

MJ even had complains.  Mark Jackson has complaints in GSW.

It's not about having complains or not, it's whether they are warranted and it's about winning.  

 Melo has been in the league for 10 years and there are some here calling THJr garbage already and he's a rookie that should get better. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint Ewing was never accused of not being a leader.  Ewing was accused of not being able to get us past the Bulls mostly. 

Ewing was a warrior but he relied on that fadeway instead of taking it to the paint in the clutch. Also, he didn't seem to want to go to the foul line in the clutch due to him missing some really key free throws several times. 

Yet, in the tough East, we weren't crying about missing playoffs.  We just wanted to beat the Bulls, Heat, Celtics,Pistons or whoever was in our way to to a ring.